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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2013, 02:10:26 pm »

CONCERNING POSSIBLE NATIONAL SECURITY AS OPPOSED TO COVER UP.....

From the Autopsy....
Lt. Colonel Pierre A. FINCK, MC, USA
Chief, Military Environmental Pathology Division &
Chief, Wound Ballistics Pathology Branch
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology
Washington, DC 20305

SUBJECT: Personal notes on the Assassination of President Kennedy.

TO: Brig. Gen.. J.M. Blumberg, MC, USA
The Director
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology
Washington, DC 20305

IN FULL / SOURCE:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/finck1.htm

We find here the notes statement from Lt. Colonel Pierre A. FINCK, MC, USA the following....

"2. Before the "Warren Report" was published, in September 1964, I received Directives by telephone, from the White House, through your Office and through the Naval Medical School in Bethesda, not to discuss Subject autopsy beyond the contents of the Warren Report. "

Receives instructions/orders ("Directives") -- "not to discuss Subject autopsy beyond the contents of the Warren Report" from:
# the White House
# through your Office (Brig. Gen.. J.M. Blumberg, MC, USA)
# and through the Naval Medical School in Bethesda

-----SO, with all the research about who dunnnit and who was involved in all, certainly researchers must include these persons as directly ordering "cover up" as the "Directives" ordering not to say anything but what is given to and then published in the Warren Report later. I have not yet seen that concerning Brig. Gen.. J.M. Blumberg, MC, USA and wondering why looking at this 'smoking gun'. Surely this means they knew in advance that what was going to be published in the Warren Report was going to be absolutely a "censored" version of the facts, or limited version - not all. So cover up? We are looking at it. 

NOTICE he says... "Before the "Warren Report" was published..... I received Directives.....not to discuss Subject autopsy beyond the contents of the Warren Report."
NOW plainly it can be seen that he (Finck) has knowledge of what ONLY is going to be given to the Warren Report that was to be published later, and they (the above issuing "Directives") knew that in advance of that as well. You might say simply the Military Officers in charge simply gave orders not to discuss and made them take an oath. That is NOT what Finck said.

As I said --- put on the thinking cap as being in the Gov and operating in National Security Mode. Surely they would not want the guilty to know what they knew. The release of the Warren Report certainly makes them appear in part or all as also involved in a cover up. Is not that what they would want to appear as involved in a major sting operation? The guilty of the conspiracy might or not be scratching their heads at this, the Warren Report (autopsy photos,drawings incomplete), saying to themselves, "Well gosh darn, they dun got the autopsy room in on it too. No chance of getting caught for anything. That be one dang blaster of a payroll." .... giving them a false confidence as they would be spied on for months and months while National Security Mode tried to track the entire conspiracy back to its origin with their compiling list of possible/proabale Conspirators within the U.S. .

As I concluded as my "solved" , I believe this document mentioned is the "smoking gun" among many that show, even prove, there was no cover up by criminal activity - but rather the United States Government was in national Security Mode measures for the obvious reasons that they knew there had been a "state sanctioned" type execution assassination occurred and was facilitated by traitors with in the Gov in key positions including the Secret Service, that evidence tampering indeed had occurred before reaching autopsy, and that the scope of the conspiracy within as well as extending internationally (those of the USSR) could not be immediately ascertained. It would take a major secret investigation that could not be easily put together as the "wall had ears". Slowly but surely, the beginning was with the Presidential Commission (Warren Report) as direct evidence gathering and investigation - the innocent had to wade through any found guilty and with extended investigation of any guilty found as who they were involved with and to what extent.

In the end I suppose the last sealed evidence should contain the actual list of the proven and suspected assassin conspirators. It is apparent the sources lead back to the USSR persons employing the American traitors and the Gov yielding prosecution due to the Cold War could have easily escalated to the hot war of nuclear exchange. This does not explain or dismiss them for not rounding up the alleged guilty per investigation of the Americans involved, and I do not believe you will find any Americans who would dismiss not arresting those of America internally who were by probable cause deemed guilty and per trial, and upon arrests bring the horrific charges horrifying America that could include a list of American Gov personnel such as the Secret Service and possible FBI and CIA agency involvement and Military officers. The most horrific is announcing the President's brain had been disposed of en route to Bethesda as part of their evidence tampering. Those involved in the selling of the Atomic Secrets to the enemy were publicly hanged after trial.
SEE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_spies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg


Conspiracy includes Affimation (Non Sworn Testimony / No Statement) as being guilty  - remaining silent and not coming forth if one knew about a conspiracy and those in it. In other words if three persons in a car go to rob a bank after discussing it, and the one says "I will wait in the car for you" and does not participate yet rides off with them to a place where the two robbers split the money and they all went their way and the third never says anything - then that person is guilty of conspiracy before and after the fact to rob the bank. The same, if there were others at the place where the robbers split up the money telling them, others, they just robbed the bank - and these others never came forward to the police to report it - these are guilty of the conspiracy after the fact as well.

They should have arrested all with probable cause of guilt and held them in a Military Trial since it was Gov members and the Commander In Chief. It seems quite possible they could have arranged this without any opposition from America when leaking some of the details of their involvement.
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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2013, 08:14:38 am »

Discovery, Commission Members Deny Oswald Legal Representation - "Or, Another Smoking Gun that National Security Mode was/is Applied".

The Oswald Case: Mark Lane's Testimony To The Warren Commission
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbUV3iS1k8>

That you tube link above is the reading of transcript by Atty. Mark Lane to the Warren Commission. It is about one and a half hours. You should have a good understanding of American Constitutional Law to hear all and understand. You can listen along and understand.

I have listened to all. I have discovered just now towards the conclusion, a few things. I do not believe Mark knows he insulted the Commission Members - depending on who he was referring to as "Prosecution". However, this is as a petition at and to the Commission to dismiss the President of the American Bar Association appointed as Representative for Lee Harvey Oswald and appoint him (Atty. Mark Lane) as Representation, and of course was hired by Oswald's mother. 

Mark has made a most fascinating petition and request alive to the Commission, most outstandingly with the existential evidences concerning Oswald. His attack vector was that Prosecution choosing Jury and Representation of Defendant as inequality. That is almost laughable in the Supreme Court. I am sure as most American Attorneys he has served as Public Defender. In cases whereby a Public Defender was appointed to a Defendant, Prosecution does indeed choose - with Defense - the Jurors. BUT Mark was saying it is not equality or due process that Prosecution choose Representation as well.

I believe he is referring to the Commission itself as Prosecution. Now the Commission got its power from Congress which was appointing the Commission as "Prosecution". As such, the Commission DID NOT HAVE the power to Appoint Representation for Oswald, but appointed the President of the American Bar Association anyway. THAT is the inequality Mark may have been referring to, must have been. And again, Defendant survivors did indeed afford representation - Atty. Mark Lane. I will add if unsaid then, the DISCOVERY here in research is that the Commission Members DENIED Lee Harvey Oswald Due Process of Law to Legal Representation by THEIR appointment - and the Commission can be brought up on this and a NEW Commission established with lawful COMPLIANCE to the US Congress. In other words Congress and the President are acting as Ruling Judge, dismissing Dallas and Texas jurisdictions in the cases, and the Commission Members acted inappropriately.

Now this brings in the whole ball of wax, and note if Mark is referring to "Prosecution" as the entire Presidential Commission by and with Congress in National Security Mode of Writ of Habeas Corpus Suspended (or as Martial law), then he indeed is petitioning "Prosecution" itself and none of this applies (the contrary), and Mark Lane invited them to read between the lines. (Yeah he's got 'em). Prosecution is authority given to the Commission by Congress in all matters. Its root is the Presidential Commission by LBJ (President Johnson). So original legal authority is even challenged, and see why.....

You can follow along at a blog post of mine at a blog domain I own http://christianeministry.com/  .....
ADDENDUM: Who Was Innocent – T.Martin, G. Zimmerman
Posted on July 22, 2013 by eminister   
http://christianeministry.com/2013/07/22/addendum-who-was-innocent-t-martin-g-zimmerman/

JUMP TO:
HOW MAY THE US CONGRESS TAKE THIS CASE IN REVIEW AND RETRIAL?
Article IV, Section 1:
“Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.”

…This is too many times misconstrued and even intentionally as misinformation and interpretation – Full Faith and Credit shall be given…. is what and by whom? Full Faith and Credit is given by the Federal Government to each State as being trusted in as the honor system, or blind faith, by promise, etc they are and will remain in compliance of putting forth into Law a republican form of government of the United States Constitution ONLY dismissing nothing, not denying and not disparaging any rights of American Citizens as citizens and residents of that State that are guaranteed all Rights as United States Citizens.
It includes State to State by State examination of public acts, records, and judicial proceedings and to compare as to the same equal justice being necessary. Judicial Proceedings can prove a more true judgment arrived in one State to Judicial Proceedings in another to be compared to – of course not infringing upon the profession and talent and income of Attorneys etc, to say how a judgment was reached lawfully. However ONLY Congress by laws may prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof. ONLY Congress has the right and overview and is Law of the Land as to how Judicial Proceedings are proved. ONLY Congress may render opinion and fact as to the EFFECT of any Judicial Proceeding in the States.
ALL THE ABOVE WRITTEN COMMENTS AND OPINIONS BY ME SHOW THE BOTTTOM LINE THAT THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS MAY TAKE FULL POCESSION OF THIS CASE TO EXAMINE AND PROVE THE CASE AS LAWFUL AND INCLUDING BY RENDERING THE EFFECT OF THIS CASE AS TO WHETHER THERE HAVE BEEN ANY FEDERAL LAWS VIOLATED OR STATE LAWS OR DISTRICT. THE US SUPREME COURT MUST REFLECT THIS – THE POWER OF THE US CONGRESS – IN ANY PROCESSION.
This then includes the Sixth Amendment (Amendment VI)…” In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law….”
…. This is to say then that “…which district shall have been previously ascertained by law…” shows the Federal Authority and to have oversight of Proof and to Prove the District (where this case was tried) is and was “previously ascertained by law” and is part of that FULL FAITH AND CREDIT GIVEN by the Federal Goverment (that blind faith, honor system, etc) that Florida is indeed in compliance with a state republican form of goverment of the US Constitution and this IS NOT the “double jeopardy” violation, to say the case can not be tried again or reviewed. The District in the State (county, town, etc) or State itself has NO power to stop the US Congress from this. The US Congress may show the effect of a flawed Judicial Proceeding in a State and prove any “mistrial” etc and declare it a void judgment and case be retried. Which is to say perhaps this is the route as opposed to “take it all the way to the US Supreme Court” – always assumed as the only way to get justice in cases via lawful appeal etc. The case retried then is NOT in violation of the Fifth Amendment (“..nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb…”) .

Now above is the good explanation of how the United States Congress could indeed take over the Martin/Zimmerman Case. HOWEVER, in the JFK Case - Congress must needs be declaring the Suspension of the Writ of Habeas Corpus which, that's right kids, declaring National Security invoked to REMOVE jurisdiction from Dallas and State of Texas.


PRESIDENTIAL POWER TO CREATE A PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION....
Article II
Section 3.
He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.
(Get it ? Atty. Mark Lane was talking 'over their heads' - the Commission Members - addressing "Prosecution" meaning LBJ.)

So more smoke of the gun.... the Commission Members were 'Commissioned Officers' of the President and in National Security Mode as Writ of Habeas Corpus suspended. LBJ did not need Congressional approval, but made them as "by and with Congress" and apparently negated a Military Tribunal Trial - which effectively was in place from November 29th until December 13th. It must be the internal conspirators were waiting to be lined up against the wall and have their brains blown out because effectively LBJ was the full power of the Law of the Land for those 15 days all by himself. That ain't no coward! He took the weight of any existing conspiracy assassins as prime target with full power. "Bring it on !"

READ:
Introduction to the Records of the Warren Commission
<http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/intro.html>
http://jfk50yearjubilee.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,21.msg38.html#msg38

WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS
Article One Section 9
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

The Writ of Habeas Corpus can be invoked by a lawyer for the defendant which is basically "show me the money" or meaning 'having the body' of evidence - the Court must show the body of evidence and witnesses alleging charges. There is NO way out of that in American Courts unless the Writ of Habeas Corpus has lawfully been suspended meaning these do not have to be presented. This is a case of National Security (Martial Law declared) and more locally might be applied in various police and bureau investigations in such special circumstances BUT nevertheless with a Judge et al privately than the Open Court (Public Trial). A quickie example is some RICO Act 6 month investigation going on over drug trafficking etc etc etc. whereby in open court could compromise or endanger etc.

Now the Secret Service breaking the law in Dallas and Texas taking off with the President's body without legal autopsy by law done in Texas into Bethesda where it was illegally performed, and all the way to the new President declaring a Presidential Commission into the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy and everything between and after - isn't the invocation of the Writ of Habeas Corpus Suspended on the flimsiest non-existent reasons?

Or as I always said, National Security being the Writ of Habeas Corpus Suspended or Martial Law in Effect as the only POSSIBLE cause of action for them doing what they did to say or believe they were being honest and lawful, sure evaporated fast - within hours and days - for ..."when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it".

They can't hide behind they were not acting as Judge and Jury - just an inquest into all facts and evidence and witnesses testimony because it was NOT their jurisdiction to do so. This would be like Canada taking full control of the investigation into the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan and saying they just wanted to see who was doing what. And everyone in America would say WTF - GET OUT OF HERE! (what the f^^k). That's what they tried to say in Parkland Hospital. So like when they were done, what Dallas and Texas can resume their investigation? Oh please. With all the evidence they compiled and made public and the later Freedom Of Information Act and the rest of the JFK acts on evidence being made public - they have so screwed this case with every nut and genuine professional commercial researcher and all their opposing views and screwball distorted versions implanted in the American psyche with all the evidences presented in thousands of opposing opinions that there IS NO POSSIBLE WAY that ANY JURY could convict ANY of the guilty parties "beyond the shadow of a doubt". CONGRATULATIONS PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION ON THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet the case remains in the auspices of National Security Mode with evidences that are under the Suspension of the Writ of Habeas Corpus - no, no one may have these certain evidences - they are locked away. Listen to the end of the Tube - the words by famous TV Anchorman Walter Chronkite... (it will start there)

lbj
http://youtu.be/xd1wuXrVPjo?t=2m29s

=================

AND ONE MORE SMOKING GUN THAT OUR GOVERNMENT INDEED WAS IN NATIONAL SECURITY MODE.....

WARNING ! THE ATTACHED PICTURE IS HORRIBLY BRUTALLY GRAPHIC AND THOSE AFFECTED SHOULD NOT VIEW.... IT IS A VERY GRAPHIC ARTIST RENDITION TYPE PHOTOGRAPH OF JFK ON THE AUTOPSY TABLE IN BETHESDA....

I believe that is an artist rendition and not actually a photograph if memory serves, although depicts what JFK looked like arriving on the autopsy table out of the zipped body bag after leaving Parkland with only "about one third of his brain blown out" (Parkland Doctors). Paul O'Conner was finally given Military permission to speak at the House Select Committee on Assassinations and was revealed at that time *only to date* that JFK arrived "with no brain, except less than a handful". Thus, if any real photograph it was certainly not released into record unless in National Security auspices of the WC etc. I have a degree (Data Processor) in computers of that era - the great big room filled computers and "hacking" the system then might be done by a type "tape worm" but would no doubt only retrieve text data - not graphics, pictures. So, if this was a real photograph then an insider with access had either stolen it or made a copy and put it back. This in fact is one more piece to the puzzle that upholds my research results summation that LBJ and the Govt by and with the Warren Commission were in National Security Mode and *not* involved in a criminal cover up. As the Public, we were to realize that our Government had just divulged this fact openly and by National Security permission about JFK and that his brain (what was left) had been disposed of illegally enroute from Dallas. Our Government for that one shining Camelot moment did reveal the truth to America when allowing Paul O'Conner to divulge this to the public at the hearing, which would become public. Of course the House Select Committee on Assassinations got about as much praise as the Warren Commission - wow at first, and realized it was as much BS and same off-handed Jersey hook questioning pattern without really consenting to evidence or witnesses all over again for a real trial. But as I said, it was not meant to be that National Security at the time was ready to divulge all and make arrests. During this time was all the PLO activity in the Mid East as home of the False Prophet from Bible references. He was not known yet or his powers, and did not rise until years later anyway (Bin Laden). Paul O'Conner is that *true* link to the Govt came clean to America and admitted a major conspiracy had occurred if you read between the lines. It was not clear why the investigation was still active this 15 years later and would not be until known in every Bible Study book thumping preaching fire and brimstone Minister worth his salt was teaching throughout the Nation to know what Armageddon was and is. IMO? (in my opinion). No, this is fact. If the Government were still involved in cover up as suspected, why would they allow Paul O'Conner to testify an openly admit to the world there was a conspiracy - in the least of after the fact, destrution of evidence? Did the Committee then bring charges? No. Shows *that* was not their intetntion *obviously*.

[BTW the very neat straight cut of the skull on the left side is the dead give away, pardon the pun, that this is not the real JFK. It appears as someone with a chainsaw walked up and cut the skull out. That is *not* what his skull looked like at all. But is somewhat, mostly, a fair gruesome rendition as an artist's depiction of horrible reality as a really close estimate. The brain matter on the table is another give away as it *is* testified to that the President "had less than a handful" of his brain left.]
PS EDIT.... Searched out and this was definately simply an artists's rendition.


* JFK NO Brain - Artist.jpg (93.07 KB, 640x427 - viewed 13 times.)
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2013, 02:47:33 am »

Commission records - The 75-year rule
 

Commission records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

In November 1964, two months after the publication of its 889-page report, the Commission published twenty-six volumes of supporting documents, including the testimony or depositions of 552 witnesses and more than 3,100 exhibits.[12]

All of the commission's records were then transferred on November 23 to the National Archives. The unpublished portion of those records was initially sealed for 75 years (to 2039) under a general National Archives policy that applied to all federal investigations by the executive branch of government,[13] a period "intended to serve as protection for innocent persons who could otherwise be damaged because of their relationship with participants in the case.”[14]

The 75-year rule no longer exists, supplanted by the Freedom of Information Act of 1966 and the JFK Records Act of 1992. By 1992, 98 percent of the Warren Commission records had been released to the public.[15] Six years later, at the conclusion of the Assassination Records Review Board's work, all Warren Commission records, except those records that contained tax return information, were available to the public with redactions.[16] The remaining Kennedy assassination related documents are scheduled to be released to the public by 2017, twenty-five years after the passage of the JFK Records Act.[17]

In 1992, the Assassination Records Review Board was created by the JFK Records Act to collect and preserve the documents relating to the assassination. It pointed out in its final report:

Doubts about the Warren Commission's findings were not restricted to ordinary Americans. Well before 1978, President Johnson, Robert Kennedy, and four of the seven members of the Warren Commission all articulated, if sometimes off the record, some level of skepticism about the Commission's basic findings.[18]
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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2013, 03:34:01 am »

Introduction to the Records of the Warren Commission
http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/intro.html

"President Lyndon B. Johnson appointed the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, commonly called the Warren Commission, by Executive Order (E.O. 11130) on November 29, 1963. Its purpose was to investigate the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy on November 22, 1963, at Dallas, Texas. President Johnson directed the Commission to evaluate matters relating to the assassination and the subsequent killing of the alleged assassin, and to report its findings and conclusions to him. .....
 
On December 13, 1963, Congress passed Senate Joint Resolution 137 (Public Law 88-202) authorizing the Commission to subpoena witnesses and obtain evidence concerning any matter relating to the investigation. The resolution also gave the Commission the power to compel the testimony of witnesses by granting immunity from prosecution to witnesses testifying under compulsion. The Commission, however, did not grant immunity to any witness during the investigation. ....."


Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy Appendix 3
http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix3.html

Public Law 88-202
88th Congress, S. J. Res. 137
December 13, 1963

Joint Resolution

Authorizing the Commission established to report upon the assassination of President John F. Kennedy to compel the attendance and testimony of witnesses and the production of evidence.
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That (a) for the purposes of this joint resolution, the term "Commission" means the Commission appointed by the President by Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963.

(b) The Commission, or any member of the Commission when so authorized by the Commission, shall have power to issue subpoenas requiring the attendance and testimony of witnesses and the production of any evidence that relates to any matter under investigation by the Commission. The Commission, or any member of the Commission or any agent or agency designated by the Commission for such purpose, may administer oaths and affirmations, examine witnesses, and receive evidence. Such attendance of witnesses and the production of such evidence may be required from any place within the United States at any designated place of hearing.

(c) In case of contumacy or refusal to obey a subpoena issued to any person under subsection (b), any court of the United States within the jurisdiction of which the inquiry is carried on or within the jurisdiction of which said person guilty of contumacy or refusal to obey is found or resides or transacts business, upon application by the Commission shall have jurisdiction to issue to such person an order requiring such person to appear before the Commission, its member, agent, or agency, there to produce evidence if so ordered, or there to give testimony touching the matter under investigation or in question; and any failure to obey such order of the court may be punished by said court as a contempt thereof.

(d) Process and papers of the commission, its members, agent, or agency, may be served either upon the witness in person or by registered mail or by telegraph or by leaving a copy thereof at the residence or principal office or place of business of the person required to be served. The verified return by the individual so serving the same, setting forth the manner of such service, shall be proof of the same, and the return post office receipt or telegraph receipt therefore when registered and mailed or telegraphed as aforesaid shall be proof of service of the same. Witnesses summoned before the commission, its members, agent, or agency, shall be paid the same fees and mileage that are paid witnesses in the courts of the United States, and witnesses whose depositions are taken and the persons taking the same shall severally be entitled to the same fees ar are paid for like services in the courts of the United States.

(e) No person shall be excused from attending and testifying or from producing books, records, correspondence, documents, or other evidence in obedience to a subpoena, on the ground that the testimony or evidence required of him may tend to incriminate him or subject him to a penalty or forfeiture; but no individual shall be prosecuted or subjected to any penalty or forfeiture (except demotion or removal from office) for or on account of any transaction, matter or thing concerning which he is compelled, after having claimed his privilege against self-incrimination, to testify or produce evidence, except that such individual so testifying shall not be exempt from prosecution and punishment for perjury committed in so testifying.


Page 474

Pub. Law 88-202

December 13, 1963


(f) All process of any court to which application may be make under this Act may be served in the judicial district therein the person required to be served resides or may be found.

Approved December 13, 1963.

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LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 109 (1963):

Dec. 9: Passed Senate.

Dec. 10: Considered and passed House.


Bibliographic note: Web version based on Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Washington, DC: United States Government Printing Office, 1964. 1 volume, 888 pages. The formatting of this Web version may differ from the original.


SO, NO, IN REALITY THIS WAS A MILITARY TRIBUNAL BY DEFINITION OF THE LAW - THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF NAMING ITS PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSIONED "OFFICERS" OF THIS MILITARY TRIAL AND CONGRESS ADDING THE EQUIVALENT OF A DECLARATION OF WAR. NO ONE HAS CHALLENGED THIS IN THE SUPREME COURT BUT RATHER DECIDED TO GET RICH FROM BOOK WRITING AND FAT AT THE EXPENSE OF AMERICANS TRYING TO FOLLOW THE IDEA OF A NEW TRIAL WHICH THEY HAVE NEVER ATTENDED OR PURSUED.

THE RULE OF THUMB IS THAT YOU CAN MAKE ALPHABET SOUP SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO. THEY DID. IT ALL COMES OUT IN THE WASH. MY FINAL CONCLUSION IS THEY SHOULD ALL WHO ARE GUILTY BE HELD FOR ESPIONAGE LIKE MODERN DAY SNOWDEN AND THOSE RELEASING ANY RECORDS WHATSOEVER BY HAND OR LEGISLATION. THEY HAVE CIRCUMVENTED NATIONAL ARCHIVES LAWS FOR PROFIT AND SPYING. IT IS CLEARLY THE LAW UPHELD AGAINST RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT VIOLATED. THEY EVEN PURSUE THE REDACTED FOR THIS. THE PUBLIC IS NOT INVITED TO A MILITARY TRIAL NOR MAY THEY MAKE RULING.

THE US CONSTITUTION, THE PRESIDENT "....shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States."

IT IS A MILITARY TRIBUNAL OF COMMISSIONED PRESIDENTIAL OFFICERS. YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT WAS SEALED UNTIL AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES PUBLICLY THAT THE NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY ALLOWS OF FINAL FULL DISCLOSURE. THOSE WHO BROKE INTO RECORDS LIKE RATS WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY AND STILL LOCKED AWAY FROM THEM ACCORDING TO THE LAWS APPLIED. FOR EVERY 100 DOCUMENTS RELEASED THERE IS NO DOUBT UP TO A 100 THAT WILL NOT BE WITHOUT ANYONE'S KNOWLEDGE. HOW CAN THE PUBLIC POSSIBLY ASCERTAIN WHAT IS WITHIN NATIONAL SECURITY?

I HAVE BEEN TO SOME JFK FACEBOOK GROUPS AND MADE SOME COMMENTS AND ATTEMPTED TO LEAD PEOPLE TO THIS HERE (MY POSTS) AND WHAT I KEEP SEEING IS THAT THIS IS SOME KIND OF DISEASE AND COMPULSIVE DISORDER TO BE A "JFK RESEARCHER" ANYMORE AND FOR SOME TIME NOW - MANY YEARS. ASIDE FROM LIVING THROUGH THIS FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS LIKE EVERYONE FROM MY GENERATION, READING SOME OF THE ORIGINAL BOOKS OR TWO IN THE 1960s , I HAVE NOT REVISITED THIS RESEARCH BUT TOWARDS THIS 50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY I DECIDED TO TAKE ONE LAST LOOK AND SEE WHAT FINALLY MAKES SENSE AND WHAT WAS FACT. THE LAST TIME I DISCUSSED THIS, LIKE MANY, WAS DURING THE VIET NAM WAR YEARS BUT OBVIOUSLY AS OUR NATION DID WHEN RFK WAS ASSASSINATED TOO - THE SECOND DARKEST DAY OF THIS.

NEWER GENERATION PEOPLE GET SUCKED INTO THIS DISEASE AS WELL. IT IS TIME THIS STOPS FOREVER AT THE 50TH UNTIL THE PRESIDENT COMES FORWARD WITH THE ALL CLEAR. OTHERWISE YOU LIVE IN SICKNESS AND DISORDER AND JUST "SPEAKING INTO THE AIR" - AS ALL THEY SAY IS ENTIRELY CONTRADICTED BY EACH OTHER. YOU ARE A NUT HOUSE THAT NEEDS BE CLOSED. YOU KNOW WHERE I WILL BE - AWAITING THE PRESIDENT AND I SUGGEST YOU DO AS WELL WITH RESPECT FOR YOURSELF AND THIS NATION.

I HAVE STATED HERE THE RELIGIOUS REASONS AS THE ONLY POSSIBLE CAUSE OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY BUT THERE IS A VAST NUMBER THAT ARE ACCUSING PRESIDENT LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON OF ASSASSINATING JFK. IT IS SICKNESS AND DISORDER. IT IS DISRESPECTFUL AND INANE. IT IS COMPLETELY WITHOUT PATRIOTISM AND PLAIN COMMON SENSE. THERE IS A SAYING "THE ASS KNOWS THE MASTER'S CRIB". THESE ARE NONE OF OURS.

AS I SAID. I HAVE LIVED THIS FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN IN EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN ABOUT THE 1960-70s ERA - THE PROTESTS, MORATORIUMS, MARCHES, THE "MOVEMENT" , THE "REVOLUTION", WOODSTOCK, ETC ETC ETC. I AM AN ORIGINAL PERSON WITH THE YOUTH OF THE NATION AT THE TIME WITH ALL THE SAME BELIEFS. YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT CALL ME SOME WARREN COMMISSIONER BACKER OR A BUGLIOSI NUT SUPPORTER AND ET AL. - YOU CAN'T. I WAS AND AM THE EXACT OPPOSITE. BUT I HAVE GROWN UP AND OPENED MY EYES AND SEEN THE MANY. THE MANY PILOT FISH LIVING OFF THE SHARKS.

You dishonor your head... Proverbs 25
1 These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out.
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.

I COULD HAVE TURNED THIS INTO A BEST SELLING BOOK - BUT FROM THE BIBLE 'FREELY GIVEN, FREELY GIVE' PERTAINING THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL.
I HAVE INTRODUCED THE ONLY INSTANCE IN THE WORLD BY BOOK AUTHORS OF THE INTRIGUING WIRELESSLY FIRED ELECTRONIC FIRING PIN RIFLES IN TRIANGULATION OF A STATE SANCTIONED EXECUTION HIT. I HAVE INTRODUCED THE ONLY INSTANCE BY AUTHORS INTRODUCING THE RELIGIOUS MARTYRING OF JFK AND THEN MLK RFK - ALL BY THE SAME CONTRACT HEAD DIRECTLY FROM THE BIBLE AS THE INTRIGUING EVENT OF OUR TIMES THE END TIMES. DON'T TELL ME THAT IS NOT A UNIQUE ONE OF A KIND BEST SELLER! SOMEONE MIGHT P*I*S*S ON YOUR LEG AND TELL YOU IT'S RAINING. (You are not that much of an idiot to actually suggest a critique are you?! omg! - you are that diseased.)

ASK YOUR SELF AS A CITIZEN OF AMERICA LIVING THIS.... THESE HAVE COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION TYPE RESEARCH AND WITH RESULTS HAVE THEY TOLD THEM TO YOU OR ASKED FOR 20 OR 120 DOLLARS TO SEE THEIR RESULTS? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? ME TOO!
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE RESEARCHERS SELLING THEIR RESULTS AS BOOKS AND PAPERBACKS FOR PROFIT. WHAT, SHIRTS TOO? THESE SHOULD BE SEPERATED AS TAINTED IN SOME WAY AND BE CALLED "COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL RESEARCHERS" THAT DO NOT SHARE THEIR RESULTS FOR FREE. TAINTED AS THEY WILL BE INTICED TO WRITE WHAT SELLS.

OTHER SCUM HAVE CONTINUALLY ATTEMPTED TO SOIL OUR HONORABLE PRESIDENT, WORLD REVERED, AND RFK US ATTY.GEN. US SENATOR AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE - WITH THE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT TRASH OF THE IMAGINATIONS OF THEIR MINDS. JFK's MEDICAL HAS EVEN BEEN RELEASED SHOWING THE DEGREE OF PAIN HE WAS IN - AND AS I SAID I HAD THE SAME TYPE BACK BRACE PRESCRIBED FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS FROM A FRACTURED VERTEBRAE AND SEVERE LUMBAR SPRAIN TRAUMATIC, IN PAIN THAT ACTUALLY ONLY MORPHINE WOULD VIRTUALLY STOP ENTIRELY. I CAN PERSONALLY TESTIFY SOMEONE IN THAT CONDITION HAS NO SEX LIFE WITHOUT POSSIBLE/PROBABLE HOSPITALIZATION. JFK SUFFERED HIS BACK INJURIES IN THE US NAVY SERVICE AS AN OFFICER AND HERO ON THE FAMOUS PT-109 IN THE MOST HONORABLE AND ADMIRABLE SERVICE OF HIS COUNTRY AND CREW. IT IS SHOWN MEDICALLY HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN THIS PLAYBOY THESE SCUM ALL ACCUSED HIM OF FOR YEARS AND DRAGGED BOBBY INTO. READ THE STUDY ABOUT MARILYN MONROE I HAVE POSTED AND YOU MAY HAVE MISSED - IT IS DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS AND "ANOTHER BEST SELLER" IN ITSELF BY YOURS TRULY....

JFK "Girlfriend" Assassinated, Marilyn Monroe
http://jfk50yearjubilee.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,98.0.html

like nixon said, the French have a word for it - au revoir - we'll meet again.


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Still think JFK was a Playboy Adulterer? Read this.... (Have added my own comments input)... http://jfk50yearjubilee.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,98.msg495.html#msg495

Proving the ill health President Kennedy suffered, take a good look at this. Playboy? They should be ashamed terribly and run and hide and never show their faces again! Filthy dreamers from the imaginations of their own filthy hearts....

Holy Bible, Book of Jude
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 

I personally had a similar back injury in the same exact place L5-S1 as a traumatic fracture of the vertebrae which later permanently damaged the disc at the same place from the fracture causing misalignment. 2 and half years in bed each time. To remove the disc, they will ONLY perform the operation if the patient would rather die or commit suicide because of the chronic (24/7) pain. You get a 50-50 chance of surviving the operations as the Gil method is performed which is four, count them, four spinal fusions are performed creating a cage around the damaged disc then removed. I also was prescribed and had to wear the same type back brace as JFK. As well there are extreme back muscle spasms in the lumbar (lower back). A simple stubbing the toe can send you into a whirlwind of pain and spasms.
 
JFK had two of these and was at that point of wishing death at the level of pain. Like I said before, no one in this condition has a sex life and yet the scum say all this trash about his constant affairs and prostitutes and on and on. That was physically impossible as seen in the release of JFK medical history....

John F. Kennedy – A Life of Back Pain & Hidden Illness
Posted on February 23, 2011 by Paul Hagen
http://www.vacupractor.com/famous-people/john-f-kennedy-back-pain/

This post is the first in a series about famous and/or note worthy people that suffer from Back Pain. In our ongoing effort to educate America about back pain and help eliminate it, this series was inspired by a story we spotted on Hub Pages you can read here if you like: Presidents Back Pain Cured

John F. Kennedy’s medical records may shed some light on questions of the president’s character. Reviews of his records in recent years revealed that the president suffered from severe back pain and other numerous ailments, taking as many as eight medications a day to manage them. Kennedy, his aides, and his family kept this information hidden from the public in an attempt to project an image as a strong and powerful figure, in much the same way Franklin D. Roosevelt concealed the severity of his paralysis in the 1930s and 40s.

Kennedy’s back pain and other ailments clearly did not stand in the way of his political ambitions. He used his father’s connections to enlist in the Navy and keep his medical condition concealed from military physicians. While serving on Navy boats in the southwest Pacific, he slept with a plywood board under his mattress for back pain relief. During his 1960 presidential campaign, he was followed everywhere by an aide who carried a bag of “medical support.” Kennedy’s medical records remained closed for years following his death, apparently because his family worried they would tarnish his reputation as an honest political figure.

Due to his many ailments, a man of Kennedy’s health would not be able to survive today’s political climate, writes presidential biographer and New York Times political correspondent Richard Reeves. Kennedy suffered from Addison’s disease, a condition in which the adrenal glands produce insufficient hormones and which required increasing amounts of hydrocortisone and testosterone. Sickly since he was a boy, Kennedy was also frequently ill and suffered from severe fatigue and low weight. He became so ill that he was read the last rites three times in his life. Lifelong abdominal discomfort and fatigue may have been due to celiac disease, which is often associated with Addison’s.

What Was The True Source of Kennedy’s Back Pain

Though his back pain was rumored to have been caused by football injuries and war wounds, according to Reeves, however, those stories were untrue. Some reports indicate that Kennedy suffered from a degenerative disease of the lumbar spine, which caused a difference in the length of his legs, requiring him to wear a back brace and use crutches intermittently. Navy records show evidence of osteoporosis. Reporter Robert Dallek writes that steroid treatments Kennedy received for his intestinal ails as a youth may have contributed to both his Addison’s disease and his back problems. In a December 2002 article in the Atlantic Monthly, Dallek writes that in the 1930s and 40s, physicians did not realize the long-term effects of corticosteroids – specifically the suppression of normal adrenal function and the inducement of osteoporosis in the lower back. X-rays from the early 50s show compression fractures in Kennedy’s lower spine.

Kennedy Underwent High Risk Back Pain Surgery

In 1954, while Senator of Massachusetts, Kennedy underwent back surgery, which posed extreme risks due to his Addison’s disease, as his hormone treatments suppressed his immune system. According to Reeves, no one with Addison’s disease had ever previously survived traumatic surgery. But Kennedy said his back pain was so severe, he would rather die than live with the pain. His x-rays revealed that his fifth lumbar vertebra had collapsed, and he had become more dependent on his crutches. He survived the surgery, but was hospitalized for nine months afterward due to a urinary-tract infection and a transfusion reaction.

A report in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1955 indicated he would have been incapacitated without the surgery, which consisted of a lumbo sacra fusion together with a sacroiliac fusion. Doctors hoped the fusions would strengthen his lower spine, but due to a possible infection, another operation had to be performed four months later to remove the metal plate that had been inserted into Kennedy’s spine.

The President Continues to Suffer from Back Pain & Other Ailments

The surgeries brought him no back pain relief. Throughout the 50s, Kennedy continued to suffer from his back pain and other ailments, including abdominal discomfort, high fevers, dehydration, high cholesterol, and difficulty sleeping. He could not bend forward or backward at all. Turning over in bed or sitting in a chair posed extreme difficulty. Kennedy continued to hide his condition from the public and denied reports of his Addison’s disease. During his presidency, he was under the regular care of an allergist, an endocrinologist, a gastroenterologist, an orthopedist, a urologist, and an internist/pharmacologist. He received back injections to make less reliant on his crutches, but his medical advisors feared they may be doing more harm than good and that he would eventually end up in a wheelchair

Regular exercise therapy with an orthopedic surgeon began to ease his back spasms and increase his mobility, but it is unknown how his health issues would have progressed had he lived longer. Kennedy was killed in 1963 by Lee Harvey Oswald. Some believe that his chronic back problems ultimately contributed to his death:  Kennedy was wearing his back brace when he was shot. The first bullet struck him in the neck, and his back brace held him upright and kept him in the path of Oswald’s second, fatal bullet to the head.

John F. Kennedy Deception or Exceptional Character?

Though some have criticized Kennedy for deceiving the public in order to advance his political career, Dallek notes that Kennedy refused to complain about his ailments and exhibited an extraordinary strength of will, enduring unspeakable pain and yet refusing to let his physical ailments interfere with his political duties.

References:

PBS.org: John F. Kennedy

“In J.F.K.  File, Hidden Illness, Pain and Pills;” The New York Times

The Health and Medical History of President John Kennedy; Dr. Zebra

“The Medical Ordeals of JFK;” The Atlantic Monthly, December 2002

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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2013, 12:57:49 am »

I read somewhere said JFK was in a *plastic liner* instead of a medical official body bag? That significance was trying to lie that JFK arrived in the bronze expensive heavy casket from Parkland that a plastic liner was put inside because of the blood still oozing from the head wounds and THAT was the mistaken body bag. (Where's the zipper buddy? LOL)

Here again I have found Paul O'Conner given interview (JFK autopsy worker, military permission to testify) and clearly states JFK arrived in a *zipped* body bag..... pasted ...

 "Casket Switch - Arrived Body Bag Zipped, Not plastic liner
http://jfk50yearjubilee.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,249.msg471.html#msg471
 Paul O'Conner was in Autopsy team at Bethesda and was given permission to speak by the Military who had all take an oath and sign document to not to speak about the autopsy. This permission was given at the second hearings years after the Warren Commission. He as well testified to the President "had no brain... less than a handful" - but left Parkland Hospital Dallas as Doctors testifying "about one third of his brain had been blown out". The two caskets are documented. The casket switch and alterations occurred in flight from Dallas.

 Here in this Video again Paul O'Conner giving interview explains JFK arrival to autopsy room and plainly states JFK was in a "body bag zipped" which he being in the military and autopsy worker is describing an actual body bag. Some one (s) tried to say JFK was in the "plastic liner" from Parkland. This is not true. Body bag is a medical and military term for the body bag as all America saw almost every night on television reports from the Viet Nam War - the many dead soldiers in zipped closed body bags. This video starts at 6Minutes/33seconds into the clip to this exact interview about the two caskets and zipped body bag..."

http://youtu.be/Fj0743iertU?t=6m33s

EDIT: And apparently the "plastic liner" or described as "plastic matress liner" ? was ALSO missing when received in Autopsy room.


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Here is an interesting homemade video. Shows the other drain storm down at the Triple Underpass. Author makes some observations. The footage is invaluable to those who did not can not make the trip to Dealey Plaza. Presumably, this drain system entry area was their in Nov 22 1963? There was the Trinity River area where possible suspect(s) were seen just after the assassination. 


<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyu103QzX_s>

Here are a lot of good photographs and apparently the above video shows the drain system "hatch: was indeed there on Nov 22 1963... (I am familiar with the sewer drain assassin theory but I don't feel JFK was shot from there on Elm)... http://jfktruth.org/drain/index.htm

I of course have posted in my research the third shot to the head causing the rear blow out wound was fired from front and down towards the overpass. Seems these may show a possible escape route for that event. The direct evidence shows the third round via the rear blow out which happened an instant after the first two hit.
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A FACT SHEET : On Security and Secret Service Inconsistencies in the JFK Assassination

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/palamara/factsheet_vmp.html

by Vince Palamara

[Vincent M. Palamara has done the most painstaking research and results on the Secret Service pertaining to their role in the JFK Assassination. Many call him "the expert".]


Summary : Recent interviews with many of the Secret Service agents that protected JFK, a number of whom where in Dallas on November 22, 1963 -- along with recently declassified documents -- contradict history's official verdict that President Kennedy was difficult to protect and was somehow indirectly responsible for his own death by foregoing security measures that would have aided in saving his life. The following "fact sheet" was prepared as a basic and general summarization of some of the more salient points in the author's research for the book "THE THIRD ALTERNATIVE ..."



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Fact #1:
Contrary to recent testimony before Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr by current Secret Service Director Lewis Merletti and Deputy Assistant Attorney General Gary Grindler, President Kennedy did not instruct agents not to ride on the rear bumper of his car several days before Dallas. Former agents Gerald A. Behn (#1 man on JFK s detail), Floyd M. Boring (the #2 man), Arthur L.Godfrey (another top man, one of the three Shift Leaders on Kennedy's Texas trip), Rufus W. Youngblood (#2 man on LBJ s detail on 11/22/63, riding in the V.P.'s car), Samuel A. Kinney (the driver of the Secret Service follow-up car in Dallas), Dave Powers (loyal Kennedy aide who rode with Kinney), Cecil Stoughton (White House photographer in the Dallas motorcade), Donald J. Lawton (also on the Texas trip), Martin E. Underwood (Democratic National Committee advance man for JFK's trip to Houston), Robert I. Bouck (head of the Protective Research Section), Robert Lilley (a member of JFK's detail from election night until one month before Dallas), Maurice G. Martineau (the agent in charge of the Chicago office), Abraham W. Bolden (the first black member of the White House Detail), and John Norris (a member of the Uniformed Division), collectively and in no uncertain terms, told me that President Kennedy never ordered the agents off the rear of his car, was not difficult to protect, and , in fact, was very cooperative with the Secret Service. Jerry D. Kivett (who rode in the V.P. follow-up car in Dallas) and June Kellerman (widow of the #3 man on Kennedy's detail) also confirmed to me that Kennedy was not difficult to protect for the Secret Service. More than anything else, this debunks the "JFK as scapegoat" notion of history -- and the buck stops with the Secret Service.



Fact #2:
Contrary to all prior accounts, including those attributed to President Kennedy himself, former agent Samuel A. Kinney was adamant to me, on three occasions, that he was SOLELY responsible for the bubbletop's removal on that fateful day in Dallas.



Fact #3:
The Secret Service was knowledgeable about prior recent threats to President Kennedy but, not only was nothing done to relay this information to the agents in Dallas, at least 3 separate checks of the Protective Research Section for any threats or harmful subjects in Dallas yielded nothing, something two agents, Roy H. Kellerman (to the Warren Commission) and Abraham Bolden (to me), said was highly unusual, to say the least. DNC advance man Marty Underwood told me that he was getting all sorts of rumors, merely 18 hours before the assassination, that JFK was to be assassinated in Dallas, even conveying this information to President Kennedy himself, who told Underwood not to worry (indeed, JFK had told San Antonio Congressman Henry Gonzalez that the Secret Service had taken care of everything and, thus, there was no need for worry)! Agent Kinney told me that there was a scare four days before Dallas when Kennedy was in Florida, separate from the accurate assassination prediction of one Joseph Milteer (an ardent right-wing supporter), in Miami on November 9, 1963. Agent Bouck told me he was aware of this threat knowledge before Dallas (and documents confirm that the Secret Service did indeed have material regarding this in their files). Five years before the revelations of the four agents who spoke to Seymour Hersh, Bouck told me he also was aware of Kennedy's philandering, crucial compromising information for a top man in Kennedy's detail to have.



Fact #4:
Although Kennedy normally had much motorcycle "coverage" in his motorcades, including at least 3 to 6 motorcycles riding on each side of the car on all prior Texas stops, as well as many other foreign and domestic trips in 1963, the plans were altered by the Secret Service for Dallas, giving JFK a measly 4 non-flanking outriders: the reason being that, as with the allegations that JFK did not want the men on the car (debunked) or the bubbletop (debunked ), the president did not want a lot of motorcycles, especially ones right by his side, which effectively opened him up to crossfire and/ or eliminated more key professionally-trained eye and ear witnesses from the scene (and out of harm's way). My interviews with agents Sam Kinney and Arthur Godfrey dispelled the notion that JFK ever said that he did not want motorcycles by the car, as films, photos, and the prior Texas stops make quite clear in and of themselves.


Fact #5:
Although Secret Service Chief James J. Rowley adamantly denied to the Warren Commission that his agency was responsible for the printing of the motorcade route in Dallas, the author has traced the critical decision back from LBJ aide Bill Moyers to what Moyers described as "the agent in charge of the Dallas trip"!



Fact #6:
In a related matter, the motorcade route itself went against both common sense and Secret Service protocol by involving turns of 90 and 120 degrees, which slowed the limousine down to a dangerous speed by both the Texas School Book Depository (Oswald's alleged lair) and the infamous grassy knoll area --- DNC advance man Underwood and uniformed agent Norris were two men who strongly criticized the route in interviews with this author. Furthermore, the #1 agent in the president's detail, Jerry Behn, told me that the Dallas route was changed from some other (unknown) choice, as the House Select Committee on Assassinations asked him in Executive Session in still unpublished testimony in the late 1970s. Furthermore, agents Kinney and Winston G. Lawson confirmed for this author that there were indeed alternate routes (two, according to Kinney), and the author discovered much confusion in the newspapers and perhaps unwitting obfuscation in the strangely conflicting accounts of the route Kennedy was to take in Dallas.



Fact #7:
The press photographers who normally rode in a flatbed truck directly in front of JFK's limousine, as they had done countless times before, were relegated to a position "out of the picture" well behind the president's limousine. According to reporter Tom Dillard, this change occurred at "the last minute" at Love Field, where two Secret Service agents, Winston G. Lawson (who the author interviewed) and Roger Warner, were responsible for lining up the cars for the motorcade, including the use of numbers for the automobiles. In addition, JFK aides Godfrey McHugh and Ted Clifton -- one of whom usually rode in the front seat of the limousine taking notes between the two agents -- were also relegated to a position behind JFK and out of sight. McHugh said that this was unusual and that this was achieved through a first-time ever request by the president's aide Ken O'Donnell and the Secret Service. Furthermore, official White House photographer Cecil Stoughton, who normally rode in the Secret Service follow-up car taking films and photos, including even riding on the rear of Kennedy''s car from time to time, was also moved to a position far out of view ofthe presidential limousine (Stoughton rode in the back-up car from July 1963 until 11/21/63, the day before the assassination). Stoughton would not give the author a reason for this change in seating arrangements in Dallas. Finally, the White House and pool Press Busses, which also normally rode close to JFK, were positioned far to the rear and out of harm's way.



Fact #8:
Dallas Sheriff Bill Decker, who rode in the lead car in front of JFK's limousine in Dallas, ordered his men not to participate in the security of the motorcade, according to Dallas Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig.Surprisingly, as this author discovered, Decker had offered his "full support" to the agent in charge of the Dallas office, Forrest V. Sorrels (a fellow passenger in the lead car), a mere day before the assassination. In addition, the car that Decker, Sorrels, Lawson, and Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry were riding in was a CLOSED SEDAN, not a convertible, which was a most ineffective choice for monitoring windows and other security concerns.



Fact #9:
An important discovery by the author was found in the video from ABC television's Dallas/ Fort Worth affiliate WFAA depicting the start of the fateful motorcade at Love Field: agent Henry J. Rybka is shown being recalled by shift leader (and commander of the follow-up car detail) Emory P. Roberts. As the limo begins leaving the area, Rybka's dismay and confusion is made manifest by his unambiguous body language of throwing his arms up several times before, during, and after the follow-up car passes him by, despite agent Paul E. Landis making room for Rybka on the running board of the car. After the assassination, the author discovered three different reports, two of which were written by Roberts on 11/22/63, which mistakenly place Rybka IN the follow-up car! Emory Roberts would go on to make a mysterious radio broadcast (depicted in the famous Altgens's photo), separate from his calls before and after the shooting, which is unaccounted for in the record (the Secret Service's radio transmissions, if transcribed, have yet to surface) offered no assistance to the president himself --- not even a shout of alarm or an alert to his men; recalled agent John D. Ready, which was erroneously blamed on the speed and distance of the two cars (as borne out by the descriptions and changes---in Roberts and Ready's reports); and, amazingly, according to the driver of the follow-up car seated right beside
Roberts, Sam Kinney, the shift leader ordered the men not to move -- although Roberts was one of a select few who recognized the first shot as a rifle blast. As nine agents were involved in the infamous late-night drinking incident the night before the assassination, including four on the follow-up car, the actions and inactions of Roberts were crucial to JFK's security (even the late arrival of agent Clinton J. Hill, who was assigned to Jackie).



Fact #10:
Windows were not systematically watched in Dallas, since no order was given (as confirmed by Dallas policeman Perdue Lawrence), although it was agent Lawson's "usual instructions" to do so. Also in regard to Lawson's responsibilities, the Dealey Plaza triple underpass was NOT cleared of spectators (as Lawson himself testified that he was trying to wave them off shortly before the shooting began). In addition, ambulances (such as the one on standby for JFK that was called to Dealey Plaza five minutes before Kennedy arrived to pick up an alleged "epileptic seizure" victim) were called to this same area on false alarms in the days and weeks before November 22, as ambulance driver Aubrey Rike told me ( He even stated that the FBI believed there was something to this)!



Fact #11:
The president and the vice president were permitted in the same city in slow, open vehicles in close proximity to each other -- former agents Lawson and Bolden stressed how unusual this was. In Bolden's case, he stated that this was a security hazard, as common sense would seem to dictate (keeping in mind that the First Lady was ALSO in this motorcade). Further complicating and confounding matters, the driver of the presidential limousine car, Secret Service agent Bill Greer, slowed the limousine down during the shooting, looked back twice at the president, disobeyed his superior, Roy H. Kellerman, who told him to get out of line before the fatal shot was fired, and,at least part of the way, led the race to Parkland Hospital -- actions that agent Greer later denied to the Warren Commission -- despite the testimony of others, the films, and the photographs (this author is the first researcher to put ALL of these elements together).



Fact #12:
Surprisingly, several of these agents told the author that they believe there was indeed a conspiracy to murder President Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963---Sam Kinney, Abraham Bolden, Maurice Martineau, Marty Underwood, and John Norris are the men that believed this to be the case. In addition, June Kellerman, widow of the late Roy Kellerman, as well as their daughter, stated that both Roy and Bill Greer knew there was more to the assassination than what was officially pronounced. Finally, two key elements discovered by the author may be the "living answers" to the security concerns and planning for JFK's Texas trip: Lawson's forgotten partner, David B. Grant, who joined Lawson in Dallas four days beforehand -- and was working with him since November 13, 1963 -- and Floyd M. Boring, who, although back in Washington, was in charge of all of the advance work during the Kennedy years AND was in charge of planning the Texas trip from the Secret Service's viewpoint!


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Used by permission of the author. [C} Vincent M. Palamara 1998



Updated December 1999

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HEAR AND SEE AS VINCE SHOWS IN HIS TUBE ALL THE LETTERS AND DOCS AND PLAYS THE RECORDINGS IN THE BACKGROUND - INTERVIEWING EVERYONE INVOLVED AND IT IS FOUND THE COMPLETE LIE THAT "KENNEDY ORDERED THE SECRET SERVICE OFF THE BACK OF THE CAR"....

STARTS AT AUDIO...
Vince Palamara takes on JFK Secret Service Agent Clint Hill + Part 2
http://youtu.be/Rf1StSdXqyg?t=7m59s

ADDDITIONALLY - HIS 4 Min COMPILATION OF WHAT NORMAL PARADE ROUTE SECURITY LOOKED LIKE - OBVIOUSLY CONSPICULOUSLY COMPLETELY ABSENT IN DALLAS...
Starts at the compilation...
 Vince Palamara takes on JFK Secret Service Agent Clint Hill + Part 3
http://youtu.be/t59Jb0pGAfM?t=10m43s
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2013, 09:00:17 am »

Those alive back then may clearly remember at least two incidents of premonitions or dreams or visions or prophecy about the assassination. Rev. Billy Graham had a premonition and tried but failed to warn President Kennedy not to go to Dallas. Jean Dixon is the other....

JEAN DIXON PREDICTED / FORESEEN THE JFK ASSASSINATION AND NAME "OSWALD" 
Anybody remember Jean Dixon?
Jean Dixon who became a household name, This is *very* interesting to read. I have a retrieved here a link showing the actual newspaper story...... See the actual vision so to speak she describes... chilling....
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19800427&id=j44sAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JPsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6306,4205796

....I am seeing one report quoted ..."In a side chapel is where Jean Dixon, the famous seer, had a vision in 1956 of a young, tall man standing in a White House doorway with "1960" over his head. She knew he was a Democrat and that he wouldn't live out his term. She told of this vision on a radio show that year."

....Just remembered the famous "Mac Arthur's Park" song that came out "melting in the rain". It may have been based on the Jean Dixon "vision" she discussed - seeing (something like) the White House and JFK face and 1960 and from top melting down all over all. Being a PA native, I have lived in California 10 years and been to MacArthur Park many times. It is like a really smaller Central Park just west of Central City. Very nice. .... (((PLAY MacArthur Park: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-5ICw-QqM> "I shall return".

You hate to speak out if this happened to you (seeing something so to speak) because you may get immediately tagged as an Area 51 Looney or nut job or etc etc etc. It is in the common Bible Studies that it is taught we test these things to see if true, and if even from the Lord. Some of these verses....

Deuteronomy 13:1
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Jeremiah 23:28
28 The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord.
29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the Lord; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.
31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord.
 
Joel 2:28 
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come.
32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call. 

I John 4:1
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 

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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2013, 12:17:07 pm »

FACEBOOK JFK GROUP QUESTION....

Secret agent Clint Hill publicly stated (it is on youtube) that
right after the first shot, the agent in Vice-President's limo, who was sitting in the front seat, got up and over his seat and jumped on Johnson as he was trained to do.

Right after the first shot, both Secret Service agents in the front seat of JFK's limo turned around to see JFK in distress.
They had 5 secs to act before the shot to the head.

Secret Service agent William Greer, the driver, slowed down the limo to almost a stop. Why didn't he step on the gas and get the hell out of there as he was trained to do?

Why didn't Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman, sitting next to William, make an attempt to get up and jump over the President to shield him as Secret Service Agents are trained to do?

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MY ANSWER......

Roy Kellerman's assignment was to jump on the President in this event. He choose to play with the radio for the "five seconds" he admitted. William Greer is one of the conspirators of the Secret Service involvement *obviously* instructed to slow the limo to 6-8 mph walking speed in the Grassy Knoll kill zone, as they are found guilty of disposing of the President's remaining brain aboard Air Force One. Of those in the follow car, those giving orders to stand down are the other found guilty of Conspiracy before the fact. ...... See Vince Palamara who has been dubbed the "expert" on the Secret Service of that time and day http://vincepalamara.blogspot.com/

.....Clint Hill on the surface appears as not involved, but the *only* Agent that day performing his duty. If we apply "extreme prejudice" and view, this can be seen as just part of the pretend concerned, as he was supposed to be on the rear boards of the Presidential Limo according to the security warnings that day. Clint Hill was supposed to be protecting the First Lady against cross fire gun play scenarios etc.

Was he really protecting Jackie? Hell no with the possibility of Badge Man firing with an exit wound hitting her and killing her from that specific angle and found as above 90-95 percent certainty a shot was fired from there or dummy round in the least (smoke).

Clint Hill may have been told "get up there" to protect their asses when Jackie was crawling hysterically out on the back of the limo after fatal shots. What would that have looked like if she fell off with all the dumb ass drunk agents laughing at her. Yes they would have got it for sure - so Clint Hill in attempting to save face runs to "her assistance'.

As well, the extreme prejudice view shows the "shrugging of shoulders, wtf" (what the freak) of the other agent(S) during direct evidence stand down orders well prior to this can be viewed again as the dog show of "concerned" but leaves "plausible deniability" to Command which the Warren Commission like the 911 Commission gave suggested guidelines to a better Secret Service preventative protection plan - accepting the Command excuses.

.... (simply upon receiving JFK in Bethesda with his entire brain missing, the Secret Service Detail should have been all arrested immediately. The Gov chose not to). Greer's excuse of hitting the brake pad by mistake instead of the gas is not acceptable in the least as a wrongful death charge by *gross* negligence. That applies to Greer as well. Roy Kellerman seemed to be ducking shots and brain matter anticipated while pretending acting in procedure to the events - "playing with the radio".

Others.... <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6OWcujJSCU>

EDIT: As you watch the YouTube link below this --- ALSO NOTICE NOT ONLY THE AGENT SAYING WTF SHRUGGING HIS SHOULDERS, BUT ALSO S.S. AGENT CLINT HILL (WHO RAN TO JACKIE KENNEDY AFTER SHOTS ON THE LIMO) REACTS TO THE SAME STAND DOWN ORDERS WITHOUT ANY PROTEST WHATSOEVER ! ! ! SO AGENT CLINT HILL CAN GO TO HELL, THE LIAR HE IS - AS SEEN SAYING AND IDENTIFYING THE ONE PROTESTING AGENT ABOUT THE STAND DOWN AS SAYING ACCORDING TO CLINT HILL - "OK, I AM GOING TO LUNCH NOW, HAVE A GOOD TRIP". BULL SHIDTT!

WATCH YOU TUBE:
Title: JFK Assassination Conspiracy.The Secret Service Stand Down Order. Was This Pre-Planned? 

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1FVZksUiZw>

Now we go back to my observation - Clint Hill was simply putting on the dog show to cover their asses to pretend they were concerned with the President just being assassinated as running to the aid of Jackie Onassis, which unexpectedly placed herself in danger for the brief time she was attempting to retrieve her husbands brains blown out.
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2013, 07:58:07 am »

Jack Ruby Silenced Oswald is a Lie, Debunked

What my post here will do is completely debunk this classic contention virtually all JFK researchers have promoted all these years falsely, causing so many to err from truth. It as well shows that there is no such thing as President LBJ was in on it and set up the Commission to cover up the truth. Having Jack Ruby murder Lee Harvey Oswald is the LAST thing accused conspirators internally would have wanted. What they would have wanted was Oswald to stand trial and be found guilty and put to death like modern day Tim McVeigh in the Oklahoma Bombing Terrorist Act. CASE CLOSED ! Because once that happened, there was NO way to re-open the case, it is illegal in America to do so.

Review all the many YouTubes and testimony and reports of the Dallas P.D. and District Attorney Wade of Dallas and newspapers and television reports - all saying they "had their man", the "case is cinched", we are "certain beyond a doubt we have the right man" etc etc etc.

The only cover up neccessary is what did occur - the Secret Service commandeering the body of JFK from Parkland Hospital to perfrom the autopsy in Bethesda that gave them the opportunity to destroy damning evidence via removing the President's brain en route aboard Air Force One. They played their hand, revealed, as betting on switching caskets onboard (plain shipping casket) and radioing ahead to deliver it first to the rear at Bethesda and the actual expensize bronze casket JFK was placed in at Parkland was as a decoy dog show and photo opp - which later was delivered to the rear of Bethesda. They hoped this would allow for, and create, the neccessary confusion by all personnel at Bethesda that somewhere between the two caskets that officially the Govt. had special occassion to remove the brain for examination and evidence to pursue any conspiracy of more than one shooter - first before the official autopsy would ensue. That they presumably would believe without asking that any national seucrity measure was in place and being a military autopsy, no one questioning orders. As well, knowing the medical condition of JFK (doctors with medical bag daily giving President medical injections etc) they planned on the Kennedy Family itself (Jackie and Bobby) forbidding, or in the least requesting, certain procedures of a full autopsy where not performed, which they did. As well, all autopsy evidences would naturally go to the lock up of the Archives as they hoped sealed them from investigation and arrest - which also occurred.

NOW WE GO TO DALLAS...... (next)

Again, review all said that the case was all but closed and that Oswald was going to be convicted - period - and get the death penalty.

Let's review my post on Dallas D.A. Wade to learn of his reputation as a Prosecutor.....  WE CAN PLAINLY SEE THAT DALLAS D.A. HENRY WADE WAS A VERY HARD NOSE D.A. AND BASICALLY WENT FOR CONVICTIONS..... HE WOULD HAVE NAILED OSWALD TO THE CROSS....

 Sequester: Dallas County D. A. Henry Wade et al
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2013, 04:49:32 pm »
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Sequester: Dallas County D. A. Henry Wade et al

ORIGINAL POST:
Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade sequester
http://jfk50yearjubilee.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,236.0.html

UPDATE CONCERNING TRIAL AND LEGAL STANDING....

Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade sequester
http://jfk50yearjubilee.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,236.0.html

In a simple brief lifetime review of Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade (JFK, Oswald, Ruby) in the article below, it is VERY CLEAR about the reputation of Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade - not the legacy wished - that aligns D.A. Wade in any realm of the legal instrument of "impingement" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/impinge (as with evidence) as to set aside ALL involvement with the Murder/Assassination Investigation of President John F. Kennedy, and this includes of course Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby events.

ARTICLE REVIEW (READ)
NBC NEWS ARTICLE:
DALLAS — As district attorney of Dallas for an unprecedented 36 ye
19 convictions undone in Dallas - US news - Crime & courts | NBC ...
www.nbcnews.com/id/25917791/
After Dallas DA’s death, 19 convictions undone
Most cases involved black defendants; some praise preservation of DNA
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25917791/

Henry Wade
(Dallas County District Attorney - JFK, Oswald, Ruby)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wade


However appropriately worded and invoked, should lay to the side as sequestered (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sequester) ALL involvement by Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade and ALL under him, involved. This concludes that jurisdiction over the Murder/Assassination Investigation of President John F. Kennedy (includes of course Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby events) CAN NOT be relied on or accepted and NOT jurisdiction of the investigation. This means ALL involvement by Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade and ALL under him is in review for investigation.

It is plain and evident that in these areas historically resulted in actual Civil War to secure Due Process of Law under the United States Constitution as Law of the Land. In other words, ANY public and fair trial did not even exist until victory - and then necessarily adding so many laws to enforce Liberty and Justice for over 100 years. This is not even mentioning Jury. It is mentioning simple basic Bill of Rights Law.

And so district authority is removed in the cases, and in place the remedy by Law as to whether Federal necessary upon inquest. What applies.... "...which district shall have been previously ascertained by law..." .....

The Bill of Rights and Other Amendments - U.S. Constitution
http://usconstitution.com/bill-of-rights
(Bill of Rights)
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Ironically, this is as well a basis for Atty. Mark Lane who agreed with Mrs. Oswald to defend Lee Harvey Oswald before the Warren Commission, as is the Rights of ALL Americans as Due Process of Law.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Again, district authority is removed in the cases is apparent until.....

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 25
3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

(In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.) (This clause in parentheses has been modified by the 20th and 25th Amendments.)

ORIGINAL LAW states....
"....until the Disability be removed...."

This is extended as inference to ALL positions of Government - Federal, State, Local, other - and certainly applies to ALL involvement by Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade and ALL under him in the Murder/Assassination Investigation of President John F. Kennedy (includes of course Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby events). In the least is saying a review is in order. In the least is saying to reopen the case in that jurisdiction requires these such events of impingement and sequestration. Much as US Courts of Appeals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals) sat to hear Appeals for the Supreme Court, whether valid to proceed, there must be a similar Judicial authority in place of the Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade and ALL under him involved AS WELL AS EXTENDS to the Presidential Commission as the Warren Report and its validity or even jurisdiction or to be itself sequestered as impingement itself to the case(s).

Of course I hold that America has an "appellate jurisdiction" meaning NO intervention by ANY body of Law or Judicial has ANY legal right to say or declare what cases they will hear or not.....

Article III
Section 2.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.


And so apparently "politics, the science of spin city" has turned the Law as "the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction" somehow now means they have the right by and with "such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make" - has turned the Law into being unlawfully interpreted as meaning these have the right to judge what appeal the Supreme Court will accept to hear, with their bullcrap excuses and reasons for the others they decide not to hear. This IS denial of Due Process. The Law, "...the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction" is defining the role, authority, and power of the Supreme Court in the United States as being the appeal receiver from LOWER COURTS to rule on it, as these Justices are to be our best as understanding our Law. It is defining them NOT as having some despot power or all power in all court and Law of the Land and so on. It defines them as NOT having some tyrannical posistion, but is defining them rather as a last resort in America per Appeal in hearing a case that seems to be above understanding of posistion, or some unlafwfullness in fact or witness etc etc etc. - in hearing in lower courts. THIS the Founding Fathers made Law of the Land by and with Americans so that for any nefarious (dark) reason a lower court could not wrongfully and illegally put Americans to hurt with some political view and interpretation of the Law as convenient to serve their means against someone. ALL Americans have the Right Of Appeal in the United States. In less terms, there is NO attachment to the Right of Appeal in America - period.

I site the foundation by Imminent Domain (and as upheld by God) as to the interpretation of Law as precedent being the Declaration of Independence being cause and reason for the institution of the United States Constitution.... "transient causes"...

"IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance....."

Need I say more about Chief Justice William Howard Taft ?

THE UNLAWFUL CHANGE...
This is unconstitutional in my opinion and anyone American or sane....
"....The right of automatic appeal for most types of decisions of a court of appeals was ended by an Act of Congress, the Judiciary Act of 1925. This law was urged by Chief Justice William Howard Taft, and it also reorganized many other things in the federal court system. ...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals

Again, I hold that America has an "appellate jurisdiction" meaning NO intervention by ANY body of Law or Judicial has ANY legal right to say or declare what cases they will hear or not hear. That is denial of due process of the law - appellate jurisdiction as Law of the Land, period. As well this means NO one has any right to determine "validity" or 'grounds" for any appeal. THE APPEAL is heard by the higher court and NO ONE ELSE for ANY reason. Obviously the court being appealed against is in conflict of the law or as a "hostile witness" and etc etc etc. Under appellate jurisdiction, how could those (or any, for that matter) possibly be considered as "hearing grounds for appeal" - particularly after they had just made ruling in a case. As Judge in other words, they are being called inferior or wrong or dishonest in an appeal to a higher court. How can that give ruling in the same case then ? Is not that the evidence and defendant being "tried twice" - "twice put in jeopardy" which is ILLEGAL in the United States. THE GROUNDS FOR APPEAL LEGALLY IN AMERICA MEANS ANYONE WHO REQUESTS IT - PERIOD. If in the higher court it is determined this was other than realistic and genuine as superfluous (a joke) etc - then that party is to be charged with that. What lawyer in other words would go to jail and lose practice over some bad defendant trying to buy time with an appeal against a sentence etc, or pulling a prank for spite, or trying simply to remain in a less secure local prison to attempt escape while waiting for hearing ?

Bottom Line ? Dallas - apparently you're out until such time as you are in !
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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2013, 08:07:10 am »

Okay to date we have posted here the plain information that Lee Harvey Oswald was ABSOLUTELY getting convicted and receiving the death penalty as punishment. Now - ISN'T THAT CASE CLOSED?

What in God's name would President Lyndon B. Johnson accused of being in on the assassination conspiracy and all the others want with a full blown Presidential Commission with Congressional Vote and Approval full of lawyers and staffers and evidence and interviews, Officer after Officer, witness after witness, Agency after Agency, on and on - everything naked to so many independent eyes conducting same and to finally GO FULLY PUBLIC UNDER THE SCRUTINY OF THE NATION AND WORLD for ? ? ?

The **** researchers all these years have kept yelling that in our faces and holding up as supposedly our national anthem to them and accusing them as part of the conspiracy and they hired Jack Ruby to shoot Lee Harvey Oswald as supposed to be CASE CLOSED?
WASN'T THAT CASE OPENED? ? ? ! !

The last thing the conspirators wanted was anybody around asking questions and rousing up interest and public reports in the news and radio/TV as is what happened by the Commission occurring. Are all the a*s*s*h*ole researchers also having us believe LBJ was that much of an a*s*s*h*ole? That stupid? Or do they want us to believe he was that paranoid that he just had to have all the evidence of the case locked up for ever just to make sure - after it was paraded past all those independent staffers that were NOT in on it? Could blow the whistle at any time as modern day Snowden?

THE MOST PERFECT CASE CLOSED POSSIBLE WAS OSWALD GOING TO TRIAL. THEY HAD THE MURDER WEAPON. THEY HAD THE FINGER PRINTS. THEY HAD THE BULLETS AND BALISTICS. THEY HAD THE WITNESSES. THEY HAD HIM CHARGED WITH KILLING THE POLICE OFFICER. THEY HAD HIM PULLING THE MURDER WEAPON TRYING TO SHOOT ANOTHER OFFICER WHEN HE WAS BEING ARRESTED. MARK LANE IS A COMPLETE A*S*S*H*OLE ANYMORE IS MY OPINION. HE WOULD HAVE NEVER GOT ANYWHERE AS DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR OSWALD AND DIDN'T. THE COMMISSION TURNED HIM DOWN. HE ACTUALLY ISN'T AS GOOD AS PEOPLE THINKS HE IS. HE SUCKS! DELIVERING FROM SOME PARALLEL UNIVERSE AS DEFENSE WITH HIS LITANY OF PLAIN BULL CRAP. THAT WOULD NOT HAVE WALKED IN DALLAS. THE ANSWERS TO HIM WHERE THEY HAD THE MURDER WEAPON -  THEY HAD THE FINGER PRINTS - THEY HAD THE BULLETS AND BALISTICS - THEY HAD THE WITNESSES - THEY HAD HIM CHARGED WITH KILLING THE POLICE OFFICER - THEY HAD HIM PULLING THE MURDER WEAPON TRYING TO SHOOT ANOTHER OFFICER WHEN HE WAS BEING ARRESTED. NO THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE FOUND OR REASON TO LOOK FOR IT. THEY HAD THEIR MAN. MARK LANE WOULD HAVE BEEN TARRED AND FEATHERED OUT OF DALLAS LIKE THE MOVIE "EASY RIDER".

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Q & A From the Facebook Group....

Q. What if the trial of Oswald brought up more questions than his death would?

MY ANSWERS....

Like what? that is the whole point if you studied all that Mark Lane proposed, all the out from left field questions of all this that and the other thing and persons involved, as he is arguably about best on the perfect defense as that studied on it. I believe with that create a doubt in the jury would have been laughed out of the court room like they did with Garrison.

They would have probably turned all things against him saying you just made our case for us defining his motives.

So many things would not walk and struck down such as introducing why Oswald so easily got back into the country and financed after being a defector, as example. The Judge would uphold prosecution as Defense is trying to reach conclusions for the jury. etc etc etc.

Crap like that would not have been allowed to be introduced - the defector crapola. etc etc and what CIA he knew or FBI and on and on....leading to a summation / struck down struck down struck down. I think the real thinking cap has to be on here is why I posted this. Oswald convicted was the *real* CASE CLOSED.

Leaves me to the question, what the hell did Ruby shoot him for? Weird. Strange. Mafia? Would have had him shanked (stabbed by improvised knife) in prison for a couple hundred or thousand, contract. Happens all the time. He would have never talked or made it to trial.

Jack Ruby seems to have been with the USSR "international" possibility the WC mentioned, by "blaming it on LBJ". An obvious doubt attempted to be spread to the American Public. The USSR propagandists fits this perfect. Be the enemy with in. Create doubt and confusion. Beat them from within. They were like that very heavily back in those days as part of that Cold War tactics. Make it real spooky and kill Dorothy Killgallen. whooooh Strike panic and fear in the hearts of the enemy.

The photos meant nothing in the case and would be struck down as well as reaching a conclusion or leading to summation. Like D.A. Wade said, he did not have to pove motive but only that Oswald did it and he said he was convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt. In other words all Defense trying to say they were smearing Oswald would have been a laugh since he was legally a traitor who had defected to the Soviet Union giving information to the enemy. Plus he was a confessed Marxist and defending Cuba which was an enemy of the state - Missle Crisis. Having studied we all know the evidence they had. Even some suggested the allleged rifle was rusty and could not shoot. Bull, they would have said becasue they fired a round to get and match balistics. The scope was crooked, they would have said defense must admit in hurried escape the rifle was thrown between boxes and knocked the scope out of alignment. and on and on. They had balistics matched. I have not seen that as challenged.

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Ted R. WROTE: ) You are barely coherent and your logic absurd.....  classic disinformation.... "why I posted this" indeed. People fall for this crap?

MY COMMENTS....
Ted you blinded yourself and missed the whole post. You have the horse blinders on apparently and refuse to listen to anything but yourself then. I find *your* response "classic disinformation" and as a disingenuious professional agitator. That's because you said that only - I guess your famous one liner "classic disinformation". All you have to do now is prove it! You offer nothing but sway. Appear intelligent and sway people away is a classic by people who do not look at others looking right at them and what they are doing. They hope and pretend with their head up their ass they won't get caught like a typical addict on the run. Classic ostrich syndrone. Got symptoms? The "whole point of the post" is I am sick of the disinformation handed America for the past 50 years by bull**** profiteers. You want to side with that and hit on work like mine - it's your choice. It is a free world even with God. Anyone is allowed to chose to go straight to Hell. God can't stop them. It's a free choice you make. This is the "whole point to this post" as you outlined. Did you even read it and disagreeing make some criticisms of points - point out *exactly* what you are calling disinformation. Your one size fits all - "classic disinformation" - isn't fooling anyone here Ted or in all America or the world. They know who they are.

The exercise Ted is to open your mind. Isn't that the reason for people joining here?

Ted R. wrote... <<"why I posted this" indeed. People fall for this crap?>> Ted you are caught! Caught at your disinformation and BS with your classic one liners as "classic disinformation". Caught Ted because this is the FIRST time in America that this has ever been mentioned ! How can it be ""People fall for this crap?"" Ted when you and one other member are the only ones who have ever seen it? Ted your caught with disinformation you are peddling on my post! Again Ted you said ""People fall for this crap?"" when people have NOT even seen it yet! Ted now understands I have caught him as I accused him of spreading classic disinformation at an Internet?Internuts destination! Thank you, applause.

Classic disinformation Ted R. ? Now remember your hero researchers telling you those of the Military Industrial Complex and Southerners and left Republicans as anti-communist and Bay of Pigs people against ALL against JFK backing down war with the USSR around the world as a real wuss is why they killed him. Right? They still haven't told us why LBJ didn't invade Cuba as they killed Kennedy because he didn't and why they didn't kill LBJ because he didn't.... They still haven't told us when all those wanted war with the USSR how they SUDDENLY after killing JFK chickened out and went out the back door and shot themselves in the foot in Viet Nam getting only 25 cents on a dollar (500,000 Troops) as compared to full profit in world war which is the reasons researchers gave as their reasons for killing Kennedy. Remember? . gothcha! classic disinformation from them all Ted R. When you give expert testimony as a criminologist Ted let me know. Otherwise why continue to feed into the classic disinformation that poisons your mind that the American Government has warned against. I am a convert. I see the light. I am the first to admit I was a fool listening to them when I was young and niave. You can too Ted. See you.

I don't listen to their garbage anymore, I put it out!

He wasn't Jack Ruby - Ted - he was Jack Ruskie ted

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As I put forth in the study, try on looking at Jack Ruby as getting money from the USSR who paid for JFK's assassination to kill Oswald. They are the idiots that caused the Presidential Commission, "doing their homework" , researching our history as predicting this would be the move of LBJ.

All they need do now is pay for one insider to leak all the investigative information to them. List of witnesses. What do we find next. Expert actuaries done in England describing odd as something like 22 trillion to 7 odds that many witnesses in a murder investigation would die in that short of a time - dead witnesses.

That is one branch..... now look at Ruby planting the first seeds "I'm a big *s*h*id*t mafia man" and I, only, know what is going on here. *Suddenly* this is nothing to do with his love for Jackie anymore.

*Suddenly* he intoduces intrigue and the first notion Oswald is not who he appears to be. Oswald has been hired/framed (take your pick) by others way high up in America to kill JFK. RUBY ONLY is introducing the notion that those in America are guilty of the major conspiracy and assassination of JFK.

*Before* this, eveyone in America was fine with digesting that some communist Oswald **** Marxists for Cuba defector lone nut from lonely childhood in NYC shockingly, as first thought it may have been the loudmouth southerners who were protesting.

... WATCH Ruby planting the seeds as if he is the insider about America did it. Why would the USSR pick him for this ? Becasue of his mafia background as that is what they wanted - pointing the finger at America to take the heat off of them....(Now remember your researchers telling you those of the Military Industrial Complex and Southernors and Bay of Pigs against JFK backing down war with the USSR around the world as a real wuss is why they killed him - so obviously the USSR is afraid and paranoid then, right suckers? They still haven't told us why LBJ didn't invade Cuba as they killed Kennedy because he didn't.... gothcha! classic disinformation) ....

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2eucWXqjg>

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We now have Jack Ruby introducing (what they call today classic disinformation) in Part Two.... he beefs up the intrigue by introducing it is more than mafia going on - it is big big big.

Here we go with Ruby planting the seeds and so laughible as he says....

"The people had, that had so much to gain, (classic blame -Military Industrial Complex) and had such an alterior motive for PUTTING ME IN THE POSISTION I AM IN will never let the true facts come above board to the world." ...

Do you see this CRAP. SUDDENLY Ruby is no longer running his cover story that he shot Oswald because of his loving respect for First Lady Jackie Kennedy and did not want here to suffer a public trial.
NOW suddenly his wild story planting seeds in the minds of America and future axxhole researchers planting the seeds that insider America has conspired and killed JFK for profit in war BUT DO YOU HEAR WHAT HE SAID? LISTEN TO THIS SUDDEN TURN AROUND OUT OF NOWHERE PLANT OF DISINFORMATION......

QUOTE: "The people had, that had so much to gain, and had such an alterior motive for PUTTING ME IN THE POSISTION I AM IN ..."

...... SEE IT ? SUDDENLY this is *nothing* to do with Jackie Kennedy anymore. All of a SUDDEN there is some MAJOR conspiracy that put Jack in prison for shooting Oswald. "Alterior motive for putting me in the posistion I am in..." - not Jack putting HIMSELF in prison for shooting Oswald in broad daylight in a Police station - NOW it is suddenly "The people had, that had so much to gain, and had such an alterior motive..." are who put Jack in prison. And who now wonders why the warren Commission walked away laughing at Jack Ruby and his "classic disinformation" that is actually USSR propaganda intentionally. ... And ByTheWay, Ruby claims to the Warren Commission he will talk if they get him out of there about all these conspirators - and do you get it? If he was honestly going to testify and spill the beans - why the hell would he have silenced one of the witnesses, Oswald, by shooting him in broad daylight? Now again do you get it - the Warren Commission walked away LAUGHING at Jack Ruby....

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnpQBa1Euc>

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 We now move to the Jack Ruby dropping his jewel - what he wanted from the beginning but needed to run his ramp up for it.... the classic disinformation of all time LBJ DID IT. That f8xkking absurd!

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZ59X2_46M>

TED R. THAT IS CLASSIC DISINFORMATION MY FRIEND! or keep your had up your butt and take your soft target shots at people like me. Depends on your character as a person doesn't it? Don;t make personal attacks on people over the internet without expecting response. it is a golden rule in forums and these type group board settings. TED R..... CLASSIC DISINFORMATION.....
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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2013, 04:14:36 pm »

Candlelight Service at Lincoln Memorial in Honor of JFK, 12/22/1963, MP769
50 YEARS AGO....



<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7pK_Mc5Z8>

Candlelight vigil at Lincoln Memorial and the lighting of the National Christmas Tree, December 22, 1963. This film is from the LBJ Library moving picture collection created by the White House Naval Photographic Unit, aka the Navy Films. Public domain.

(Skip in one minute.... TV test bars for one minute)
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2014, 11:57:26 am »

In this my Thesis (solved) you have read here that the first wound to JFK was by a high powered rifle entering below the neck on the President from behind. Some questions must have risen. I will here qualify Governor Connally's wounds as NOT from the same bullet.

Remember what was written here that the bullet entering from rear below the neck of JFK then passing through struck the vertebrae, nicking it shown in X-Rays, and then richocheted upward - exiting the front about the Adam's Apple. There was the fresh dent on the chrome dash of the Presidential Limo that was about the size of a bullet as this striking it. There was also the windshield debacle of actually a through and through bullet hole against it was "just cracked". The bullet exiting JFK's throat could have been either of these, or simply richocheted out of the car altogether.

And so the questions arise. Then I am then saying that the Governor was hit by another shot other than the one striking the President from behind below the neck. It is really difficult looking at the Zapruder Film to not say that both these men were simultaneously hit by the same bullet. They both appear reacting at the same instant. However, this does not rule out that two bullets were fired simultaneously at both men by two different assassins.

It has been shown here that the American Government DID "declassify" to the American Public and World in the House Select Committee Hearings that President Kennedy arrived into the Autopsy Room "with no brain". It is documented the President was in a different casket (then the one left from Dallas) brought into the room at Bethesda with both caskets in a paper trail and no one accessed the President at Bethesda. What was revealed to all via the testimony now allowed by Paul O'Conner (Military Autopsy worker), as he and the others were sworn to secrecy by the Military at the autopsy time - was that indeed the President was in that different casket and a body bag (which he was not placed in at Dallas) and was unzipped and O'Conner helped place the President onto the table and said there was "a gasp" as the President "had no brain" except "less than a handful" of serrated matter inside at the bottom of the blown open skull. Of course Parkland Doctors all testified that only about one third of the President's brain had been blown away, out. What was "declassified" was that the only persons with access and to do this (dispose of the President's brain) were those of the Secret Service and at the only time alone with the casket in Air Force One at the time of the swearing in of V.P. Johnson as the President now of the United States.

Since it was shown here that Oswald's gun could not possibly have been the murder weapon and according to all medical testimony, then also it is known that those of the Secret Service had planted fragments of bullets from Oswald's rifle - shot and collected elsewhere on a previous date. This includes in conspiracy the infamous "pristine bullet" planted on the gurney at Parkland Hospital.

And so also, we see the Secret Service were "sweeping" the Presidential Limo at Parkland and elsewhere - obviously then to gather and dispose of damning evidence of more than one assassin, being then by definition as part of the conspiracy. There was all the Parade Route oddities and lack of security, and the slowing down almost to a stop right precisely at the spot where the head wounds occurred which are also obviously conspiratorial.

To qualify Governor Connally's wounds in answering questions arisen in my thesis here, we go to the medical descriptions of the entry wound of the Governor. This is a several part examination of existing documented evidence and testimony.

Here is one source showing photos of the "recovered" bullets, fragments from the Presidential Limo and the 'pristine' (meaning almost with no damage) bullet from the gurney at Parkland....
http://www.jfklancer.com/LNE/fragments/fragphotos.html
...and here....
http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/Rifle_Bullets/index.html


And so with your research about the Gov. Connally wounds as I did, a good source is here....
http://www.history-matters.com/essays/jfkmed/BigLieSmallWound/BigLieSmallWound.htm

....we find that the entrance wound of the Governor was described as much a puncture wound - meaning a straight on shot, the bullet entering with a slight eliptical shape as to be from a slight tangent or "tangential". The entry wound in the top rear of the President's head was a puncture wound - virtually round clean straight in. This alludes to the bullet hitting the Governor was from a slight angle. Those of course of the SBT (single bullet theory) camp will say that naturally, as the Governor said he was turning when he got hit.

This also means that a separate bullet could have been fired from a more severe angle than the supposed Oswald bullet hitting the President's head. That would cause the entry wound described in the Governor - slight tangential entry. Note that the entry wound to the rear of the President's head (top center, about size of a pencil hole) has been described as and looks like a puncture wound - straight in cleanly and NOT tangential - which of course means not from an angle such as from behind and to the right as the Book Depository Building, but rather straight on as from the DalTex Building.

There is more though, and importantly so. A lot of the bullets, cartridges, in these type weapons as Oswald's have a very pointed tip sharply. The ammunition for the Carcano Rifle (like Oswald's) is much more round in pronounced manner. This Carcano ammo, not even in the FBI test repository at time, having the rounded tip makes it much less able to yaw or tumble after leaving whatever it hit - here reported as JFK in the Warren Commission. It stays almost virtually straight to then hit a second target which became Governor Connally also reported by the warren Commission.

Most other bullets as this tend to hit sideways into the second victim, after tumbling or yaw from leaving the first. SEE....  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaw_(rotation)

Now in support of the Warren Commission, or rather not, it was actually not in there that the Carcano ammo could have indeed caused the slight tangential puncture entry wound of the Governor's back and as opposed to all other type ammo not as the Carcano rounded tip ammo - which is reportedly not known to yaw much or tumble after leaving a first victim. Ironically, the Warren Commission not doing their homework, lost a best chance to support their SBT (single bullet theory). This may have cinched their theory's credibility in the eyes of many more.

And so what we have here is that Governor Connally was hit from a slight angle - more so then the bullet that first entered the President's head (not tangential) in the top rear and from the rear. There is one research offering a shot was fired from the other end of the Book Depository Building and a lower floor I believe it was. That, as example, would be more of an angle obviously than straight on from the rear. 

In review of the Secret Service, or rather the FBI, bullet fragments they said were found about the rear seat area (Mrs. Connally) - this would coincide with the angle shot from the Book Depository (Oswald sniper nest) as fragments from the head shot entering the rear of the President's head and exiting as fragments and landed there. PROBLEM: The entry wound of the President's head towards the top and center (not the lower blow out wound of lower right side) was NOT tangential - but plainly seen as a traditional puncture wound fired straight on and NOT from an angle. Reconcile that! It would be from the Daltex Building if anywhere (straight on puncture wound), and not the Book Depository Building that would have caused then a somewhat tangential entry wound.

SCREENSHOT PICTURE.....
http://www.jfklancer.com/docs.maps/limoexam.gif


THE GREATEST mystery I find here as knowing a different shot hit the Governor, is the whole planted evidence scenario. Remember that I have written and reminded that the Oswald Evidence of the gun and three spent shells have been already planted to find to frame Oswald. It has to be that ALL evidence found means only three shots could have been fired - and from Oswald's rifle only. This includes the pristine bullet found on the gurney at Parkland. If anything else shows up - it shows a conspiracy and may even reveal the evidence tampering that did go on. Busted. Obviously the assassination conspiracy "hit" was revealed as Oswald only did it and with three bullets only - period. They put all their money on that as the outcome of investigation obviously by all the found planted evidence. Even with all their planning, we find, they were sloppy and did weird risky unexplained things as if somewhat deranged rather than cold blooded calculated murderers - even being in category of a "state sanctioned hit" as is said today.

The strangest thing is the "pristine bullet" found on the gurney at Parkland Hospital. If they knew they were shooting JFK first in the back (and was shown here why and reason of that wound - not a mistake or sloppy gunmanship) - they also knew they were shooting the Governor also with a separate bullet. With the straight on puncture wound of the back at the neck area of JFK - they must have assumed (and even practiced on victims or reproductions) the exiting bullet would have struck the Governor as well. This means the second shooter actually causing the wounds with a separate shot would have left two entry wounds in the Governor's back - one tangential from the actual side shot and the other presumed as a tumbler or yaw entry from passing through the first victim (JFK). Again note the Carcano ammo. The bullet hitting JFK in the back/neck area did nick the vertebrae (discovered in X-Ray) richocheting and exited the throat - but did not hit Connally. It richocheted upwards and out and explains the angles involved. I have posted this here and has not been found elsewhere, to my knowledge, by other researchers who seem to have missed the valuable info about the vertebrae injury of JFK being struck by the bullet.

So why plant the pristine bullet? We are talking here a shot at least 90 yards away having to basically hit a silver dollar with all accuracy (JFK's back/neck shot). It did hit but a little to the left which then entered and richocheted off the vertebrae and out. This is part of the weird stuff. Why take a shot like that with the obvious outcome being in many scenarios of violent reactions that would have called off the head shots ? Deranged people.

Now if you haven't gotten to the 'smokin gun' question here, it is this. How could those involved have possibly predicted the JFK back/neck shot would richochet off his vertebrae and angle upward even out of the car and not hit Connally? Why and how then did they plant the pristine bullet as if they knew this would occur and took the next shot hitting Gov. Connally as if it was the JFK back shot that hit Connally?

THEY set up the single bullet theory - NOT Arlon Spector. It was like a script handed to American Govt and Law investigating - Oswald, the rifle, the three spent shells, and the single bullet. Remember, I don't believe they had any type laser targeting then for rifles - BUT even so at 90 plus yards away pinpointing a vertebrae nick while the Limo was moving at speed during this sequence shots and after slowed down for the head shots is not possible except by luck in many, many shots and one hitting target - the vertebrae to cause richocheting.

Look at it.... single bullet Carcano ammo (doesn't yaw much), tangential wound to Connally. It's crazy like they were Satan himself which knew more than saved him. But we know that was impossible. As they say God's hand is in everything. Here they must have gone a bit crazy wondering what happened to the exiting bullet that struck JFK in the back/neck area. Remember that the evidence of Oswald rifle fragments are being planted in the Limo too. Simple. Visually sweep the Limo after, beginning at Parkland, and even with a Geiger counter. Everything found swooped up to be thrown out and then plant the Oswald rifle fragments. Then wash it down to be sure nothing else is found in some profound excuse of decency for the President. And so the reality. They were prepared to explain the TWO entry wounds into Governor Connally's back - and P.S. - how could they have possibly known the bullet hitting the Gov. would finally exit as a graze wound of the thigh (SBT) ?

Too bad for them - Governor Connally had turned sideways and then fell into his wife's lap before the head shot so that they could not say one entry wound into Connally's back was fragments from the JFK head shots - which was probably the planned outcome.

Again we go back to the Carcano rifle picked which raised the questions why Oswald did this. He could have easily purchased a rifle back then anywhere and not have it traced to him, but seemingly chose the order method that would and with the fake name. Did the conspirators do their homework and knew this about the Carcano ammunition that does not tumble or yaw much after hitting a first victim and into the second? Does this explain these obvious stick out like a sore thumb tactics in Oswald ordering the Carcano rifle? Fits. Fits for the SBT (single bullet theory) and we are back to square one - why and how did they set that up as it was? How could they know the outcome of the shots in advance as they did occur ? The only explanation is they expected two entry wounds into Governor Connally and ready to have evidence support that in their pre-arranged Oswald did it in three shots (evidence already planted).

All said and done, the Doctors said the found fragments/bullet on the floor of the Limo would be the expected evidence and NOT the pristine bullet for Governor Connally's wounds. As well, all tolled, the fragments found (planted) weighed far too much to be from the "pristine bullet" planted at Parkland.

TAKE A LOOK......
1963 SECRET SERVICE FILM (JFK ASSASSINATION RECONSTRUCTION)
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcqYcdIce6E>

You can see the angles here that do not match the JFK head wound from the rear that was as a puncture wound straight on (apparently from Daltex Bldg.) - no tangential entrance. Ironically, the slightly eliptical puncture entry tangential wound in Gov. Connally's back reveals the JFK rear head wound entry was NOT from the Book Depository. This is more gleaned from the medical evidence and not mentioned by other researchers I have seen. And so they "snitched" on themselves. Perhaps the first "amateur" state sanctioned hit in modern history. Again, there is no such thing as the perfect crime in America.

BELOW HERE I HAVE ATTACHED THREE PICTURES FROM THIS....

And so the bottom line here in qualifying Gov. John Connally's wounds is shown as the actual multiple assassin attack became flawed immediately after the first wounding of the President which was also the simultaneous wounding of the Governor by a different gunman and bullet. In other words, there were two different gunman who simultaneously fired - one at the President and one at the Governor. They had obviously been prepared to have these wounds explained and obviously involved the mysterious pristine bullet found on the gurney at parkland Hospital.

What went immediately wrong, was the bullet that hit the President in the lower neck area (upper back) striking through, richocheted off of the President's vertebrae and exited upward out his throat area around the Adam's apple. This is what forced the President's arms up in reaction, as seemingly clutching towards his throat as choking as seen on the Zapruder film and reported/testified by witnesses.

This unexpected injury to JFK in the shooting shows Gov. Connally was hit simultaneously by a second gunman. The one shot of the three the Warren Commission reports that "missed everything" may indeed be a shot intended as firing over the targets and missing everything - expressly as a missed shot that in turn was intended to be a cover story second shot that then fitted hitting the Governor causing back wounding. Witnesses easily sloughed off as hearing echoes, but the medical evidence was the crux of the matter.

If you look at the Zapruder film you notice it seems both men were hit simultaneously by that shot that struck the President in the lower neck/upper back area. BUT in viewing the aftermath of that strike, we see JFK throwing his arms up as seemingly choking and then after that the Governor has attempted turning around to see him. NOW this is about the time of the reported second shot according to the warren Commission that simply missed everything - and obviously it would have had to, because look at the men now to try and shoot the Governor. We have JFK's arms up and clutching towards his throat - his elbows and arms up high and now in the way of another shot to hit the Governor. As well, the Governor has turned and is also falling into his wife's lap backwards, sideways in the car. There is now NO clear shot from the buildings behind to hit Connally in the back. This proves the bullets that hit the President in the lower neck area and the Governor in the back were indeed fired simultaneously even though Governor Connally swears he was hit by the "second shot heard". All the reenactments and all the years they have never shown the shot with JFK's arms up and in the way of it with the Gov. turning and then falling - though they have shown the trees in the way of an Oswald first shot, showing when it was possible to fire. Let's see Gov. Connally's "second shot hit" him. If possible, then medically it would seem to have shown a more tangential entry wound as the target was moving sideways as opposed to the shooter shooting from a sideways position.

I hope this has served to qualify Governor John Connally's wounds that occurred and when - answering as well questions that may have arose about my "solved" thesis on the JFK Assassination and concerning the lower neck/upper back wounding of JFK which then did NOT continue on into the Governor.


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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2014, 04:23:31 am »

CHECK OUT....

Bobby Kennedy: America's first assassination conspiracy theorist
May 13, 2007
BY DAVID TALBOT
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=deceptions/assassinations/jfk/rfk-accused-cia-of-jfk-murder.txt
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2014, 12:00:11 am »

Debunk My Thesis? I don't think so!

Many persons like to attempt to "destroy" a researcher's work and resultant theory or belief and the facts showing or leading to that - and only as mischief. Other genuine persons may pose questions and show facts - and even researchers, and may possibly "debunk" or disprove a theory arrived at or belief. As anyone knows in this case, and with no official lawful judgment all these years combined with "locked away evidence", it has been a real pain to attempt to arrive at the belief of what happened - and via the zealous efforts of so many concerned - to even map the entire assassination from start to finish, even with a who's who list of the guilty involved.

I am going to go ahead here and post a bottom line "hey genius, if that's how it happened then what about this?".

As I posted I was really, really, really surprised suddenly through my own research to suddenly realize and reach the conclusion that our own American Government immediately, and ongoing, were involved in a complete National Security Mode that explained many of the puzzling things going on after the death of the President within the hour of the shots fired. I have posted support and documents for this and have given reasons for all they did as far as the Warren Commission Report and why. I have denounced those that pointed the finger at Vice President Lyndon Johnson saying/claiming he was "in on it" - and as disgraceful even.

Seeing through and dissatisfied with the Warren Report, ever since has been that quest to discover the whole truth for many Americans (most) and even many others from other nations. It was all a daze in the beginning, one question would unleash an avalanche. Simply and profoundly by the sealing up of the evidence, eyes seeing holes in the Warren Report just went on staring at the Government with the thoughts "somebody in there in a big conspiracy shot our President". The eyes and thoughts kind of glazed over like that for years - staring and glaring at the Government and the apparent Warren Commission 'cover up'. What was lost was the pursuit into USSR involvement, but turned and stayed on those in American Government.

All in all, through my "solved" thesis - I see two possibilities to "blow it to hell", and they combine as against the innocence of some of the National Security Mode going on particularly with the now President Johnson. This refers to all the accusations of the "President Johnson Executive Order 273" which is reported by many as the complete reversal of President Kennedy's position of the withdrawal of American Troops (Executive Order 263) as a "green light" to create a full blown "Viet Nam A Go-Go" money making machine for years, as long as it lasts. The other involves a mystery needed to be pursued as to one of the first Press Conferences from Parkland Hospital whereby one of the Doctors treating Governor Connally reported that a bullet was still lodged in his thigh that they will remove shortly, as his major wounds have been addressed first and that was secondary. The question goes - whatever happened to that bullet ? Hmmmm.....

So let's begin with the two Executive Orders concerning Viet Nam from JFK and then LBJ after the death of President Kennedy. The one idea reported is that LBJ signed this reversal of withdrawal to begin full scale operations and what a day after the JFK Funeral - "before he was even cold in the grave".

Now in comparing the JFK 263 and the LBJ 273 and the draft of that while JFK was alive - we see that the LBJ 273 is as very much simply using Kennedy's Draft and issuing now under his self as President as the "best way to honor President Kennedy" was to promote and pass into legislation all the things he was fighting for. WHAT THESE LYING BASTARDS DO NOT SAY IS THAT THE LBJ 273 STATES SPECIFICALLY....

QUOTE))) (LBJ 273) :
" 2. The objectives of the United States with respect to the withdrawal of U. S. military personnel remain as stated in the White House statement of October 2, 1963. "

AND WHAT WAS IN THE JFK 263 ?
QUOTE))) (JFK 263) :
"The President approved the military recommendations contained in Section I B (1 -3) of the report, but directed that no formal announcement be made of the implementation of plans to withdraw 1,000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963."

SO THAT ENTIRELY IN ONE STATEMENT BLOWS AWAY ALL THOSE THAT POINT THE FINGER AT LBJ SAYING HE WAS IN ON IT AND GAVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT IN 273 TO ESCALATE A FULL BLOWN MILITARY WAR IN VIET NAM....B*U*L*L*S*H*I*D*T !

LBJ TAKING UP THE PRESIDENCY ADDRESSED THE BUSINESS LEFT ON THE PRESIDENT'S DESK AND 263 WAS ONE OF THEM. HE REINTRODUCED JFK'S WISHES AS 273. I NO LONGER HAVE THE RESPECT FOR OLIVER STONE AND HIS TRASH MOVIE - "JFK" - CONTINUING THE LIE. ....NEXT!

Now you compare those documents and see the truth. Visit the "Pentagon Papers" while you are at it. Get a good view and history of Viet Nam. See the "China Containment Policy" too. Viet Nam was simply the back door into World War Three with the USSR which JFK entered the front door at Moscow over the Cuban Missile Crisis. This was the whole reason of the Viet Nam protesters - the youth of America - who all wanted to take on Communism in Moscow, not Viet Nam which was nothing more than what Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara called it... "the real U.S. goal was "not to help friend, but to contain China.".... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

....And this became the stalemate and loss. The United States Armed Forces held a 20 to 1 kill ratio, perhaps the greatest ever in the history of warfare. What they were up against was not just Northern Viet Nam troops, but the Viet Cong and Chinese troops being snuck into the fighting and surrounding nations involvement - Laos, Cambodia etc. The stance taken as the back door into World War Three by containing Communist Red China and her satellites (those of South east Asia) as the ground forces of USSR to invade against Allied Forces in full assault and invasion of the USSR (much as done in World War Two at D-Day) resulted in the final stalemate that it would end in some Nuclear Winter to win and the South Viet Nameese would have to agree their freedom from communist rule was simply not worth destroying the entire world over it and accept a saving face defeat with the USA.

Now understand that and what is being said ! Read a brief here from the President Kennedy State of the Union Address 1963 (his last).....

QUOTED:
"The Nassau agreement recognizes that the security of the West is indivisible, and so must be our defense. But it also recognizes that this is an alliance of proud and sovereign nations, and works best when we do not forget it. It recognizes further that the nuclear defense of the West is not a matter for the present nuclear powers alone--that France will be such a power in the future--and that ways must be found without increasing the hazards of nuclear diffusion, to increase the role of our other partners in planning, manning, and directing a truly multilateral nuclear force within an increasingly intimate NATO alliance. Finally, the Nassau agreement recognizes that nuclear defense is not enough, that the agreed NATO levels of conventional strength must be met, and that the alliance cannot afford to be in a position of having to answer every threat with nuclear weapons or nothing. "

SEE IT ? .... "...Finally, the Nassau agreement recognizes that nuclear defense is not enough, that the agreed NATO levels of conventional strength must be met, and that the alliance cannot afford to be in a position of having to answer every threat with nuclear weapons or nothing." http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=9138

"Nuclear weapons or nothing" is NOT any way to win what would become World War Three and invasion of the USSR and to end unlawful tributary communism forever from the face of the world. In other words many nuclear strikes could serve only to paralyze nations isolated as land masses separated by the seven seas. Short of ultimate planet destruction in a nuclear winter scenario, a nuclear war would not end any nation, or perhaps a few. Humanities would survive and rebuild and start war all over again as they were able. So as JFK instructed and reflected, any nuclear use must be accompanied by a sustained invasion force of levels high enough to accomplish victory. Simply this was estimated traditionally since World War Two as the United States must have a 2,000,000 man standing army. Of course this was called into action the year prior at the Cuban Missile Crisis when President Kennedy placed us at DEFCON 2.

Now do you see how the Viet Nam war was a mistake ? This was called shooting yourself in the foot in Viet Nam (a reference to a soldier shooting himself in the foot to get out of the war). The invasion force if you will was being decimated as ill planned resulting in over 500,000 casualties and over 55,000 dead. That is a staggering 25 percent of the 2 million man standing army face down in the mud wounded in Viet Nam. There is much that fingers should be pointed at President Nixon and NOT Johnson. At Nixon because he is the one that refused to win the war. He is the one that offered peace when there was none. He is the one who chickened out of war. He is the soldier that shot himself in the foot at Watergate. He was a coward! President Johnson was always considered as meaning well but was kind of country dumb and naive in the heart of hearts of the American Youth.

The United Nations Treaty and Charter constrained America to fight Communist overthrow anywhere in the world. This was also called in manner the Containment Policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containment ....What was President Johnson to do ? Ignore North Viet Nam ? Remove from South Korea ? Let Cuba have their missiles back ? Stay out of Southeast Asia ? Hide from Red Communism altogether like a good neighbor, to hell with their victims ? What happened is history. We can not apologize for leaders's lack of might, courage, and wisdom. Europe and the Americas would say we can not achieve our promises and blessings without the knowledge of and obeisance to God. If we do not understand God, then we can not follow His Teaching and instruction. The whole can of worms with this goes back to the League of Nations - the predecessor to the United Nations. This is man's wisdom - NOT God's. Both are ridiculously flawed by the inclusion of both the United states and the Soviet Union. Both the United States Constitution and the Communist Manifesto International forbid entering these - as is defined as Treason in both forms of government to do so. They're ridiculous and always have been. As great a leader as Jack Kennedy was, he still promoted this activity saying he was not against Containment. Why fight 50 separate wars in 50 separate countries that the Soviet Union or Red China or other autonomous communist nations would invade with Containment policy ? It is worst then absurd ! If you are against communism for all the right reasons, you go to war and defeat it - PERIOD. Eradicate it from the face of the world. You can't call it evil if it spreads but is okay if it does not. Do you see it ? The Communist Manifesto International expressly demands the conquering of all nations and anything short of that or opposing that shall be held for Treason. That constitutes Communism as Enemy of the United States and United States Constitution and charged with Treason. Now do you see it ? Neither country could ever go into the League of Nations or the United Nations together without it being Treason. It has been too nonsensical almost 100 years now. There is no apology for these leaders. And so if you want to talk about Viet Nam or any President involved then do it right. Be correct. Speak intelligently. Above all, don't be such the a*s*swhole saying "President Johnson had JFK assassinated".

We can not be expected to answer for those that talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

An example of leadership that is simply non-quality and fruitless shows we have not gotten one foot forward in 50 years in the following comparison of events from the Viet Nam Era to present day under President Obama with the Russians and Syria and Ukraine Crisis and Iraq invasion.....

READ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_relating_to_the_Six-Day_War
"In a 1993 interview for the Johnson Presidential Library oral history archives, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara revealed that a carrier battle group, the U.S. 6th Fleet, on a training exercise near Gibraltar was re-positioned towards the eastern Mediterranean to be able to defend Israel. The administration "thought the situation was so tense in Israel that perhaps the Syrians, fearing Israel would attack them, or the Russians supporting the Syrians might wish to redress the balance of power and might attack Israel". The Soviets learned of this deployment, which they regarded as offensive in nature, and, in a hotline message from Soviet First Secretary Alexei Kosygin, threatened the United States with war.

The Soviet Union supported its Arab allies. In May 1967, the Soviets started a surge deployment of their naval forces into the East Mediterranean. Early in the crisis they began to shadow the US and British carriers with destroyers and intelligence collecting vessels. The Soviet naval squadron in the Mediterranean was sufficiently strong to act as a major restraint on the U.S. Navy. In a 1983 interview with the Boston Globe, McNamara said that "We damn near had war". He said Kosygin was angry that "we had turned around a carrier in the Mediterranean"."

LOOK FAMILIAR ? Same players today as then - Russia with the Arabs attempting control of Israel and the Free World. We have not advanced one foot militarily.

Next .... the mysterious disappearance of the "bullet in the thigh" of Governor Connally.....


Parkland Doctors on Connally's Leg Wound


<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l428bg2JGY>

And so we see here real testimony/report by one of the treating Physicians at Parkland within those minutes to hour and so treating the wounds of Govenor Connally also hit. Now the doctor clearly is saying there is a bullet in the Govenor's left thigh, lodged, and will be removed now that the more pressing treament of wounds have been addressed. It is possible they somewhat probed the thigh wound and found a bullet. More likely I would assume they took X-Rays and saw the bullet. The Doctor did not say something like there is a fragment of a bullet lodged in the thigh. He said it was a full bullet. I had overlooked this to pursue and research what ever happened to this "bullet" reported as lodged in the Govenor's thigh. When I do that, I will add it below.

And so the point of the exercise here is someone saying they debunked my 'thesis' that the question asked must be how in the hello was National Security in the matter in place so fast within the first hour and second as in the know to then begin their National Security policy of hiding things for reasons posted across my thesis for those reasons they did? Reasons being for secret investigation into the conspiracy discovered. But that (the larger conspiracy) wasn't really discovered yet beyond initial reports of possibly more than one shot to the head of the President and possibly from different angles. The real discovery of the major conspiracy wasn't until the President's body arrived on the autopsy table at Bethesda and all saw "the President had no brain". Of course leaving Dallas, the Doctors said about one third was blown away - not the whole brain blown out. There was no autopsy surgical procedure performed which exactly involved cutting half the top of the skull off and so forth to then remove the brain for forensics of bullet paths and so on. The entire brain was missing "except for about less than a handful of mascerated brain at the bottom of the skull".

About then began the insanity for sure for those in charge to start investigating what had happened and where and by who. Soon after came the knowledge those of the Secret Service where the only ones able to do that - dispose of the President's brain - and aboard Air Force One and at the time of the swearing in of Vice president Johnson to the Presidency by law. It was the only time the President's body was alone, with them - Jackie being with the swearing in ceremony up front. As well, he arrived in a different casket at Bethesda at the autopsy room. It was shortly after these things and discoveries that what everyone has called a cover up (and myself before) was the time that National Security policy was going into effect, policy above the general as full heightened alert and so on at news of the shooting etc. The National Security policy I discovered involved the covering up of things and having those of the autopsy sworn by oath not to discuss anything and this by the Military - and then like things surrounding the autopsy results and beyond to the Presidential Commission etc. Reasons being were secret investigation.

So if the actual scope of the conspiracy wasn't even known yet, how the hello was the policy in place to then surpress anything to do with the bullet in the Govenor's thigh? Why would they know to start grabbing evidence to keep it from the public if they were not even aware yet of the scope and magnitude of the full conspiracy? Where did the bullet go? Things have been declassified. Huh guy. huh Guy? And then they go back to - bullcrap, President Johnson set the whole thing up and they were all in on it. That's the end of your bullcrap "theory". 

SEE....

F.B.I. Backs Plan to Remove Connally Bullet Fragments
By DAVID JOHNSTON,
Published: June 18, 1993
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/18/us/fbi-backs-plan-to-remove-connally-bullet-fragments.html

Well like I said, Debunk My Thesis? I don't think so!

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« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2014, 11:42:38 am »

David Lifton about Paul O'Conner
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7502
IN HIS OWN WORDS.... QUOTED:

"What made O’Connor important is what he told the House Select Committee, and is recorded in the HSCA Outside Contact Report of Purdy and Flanagan, in 1977, and it comes down to 3 basic facts concerning the JFK autopsy:

1. JFK’s body arrived in a shipping casket
2. Inside, it was in a body bag
3. The cranium was empty.

O’Connor is a direct witness to these events, which is surely what was being suppressed by the “order not to talk,” which he (and the others) were placed under verbally, and then in writing, on November 26, 1963, the day after JFK’s funeral. Moreover, it was the recision of the “order not to talk” which made it possible for him (and the other) Bethesda witnesses to be interviewed by the HSCA.

Those interviews were conducted in 1977/78, and the appropriate reports written. But then Blakey didn’t like what they said and it was all locked up — and not scheduled for release until 2029.

Two things changed that schedule for the much delayed release of this information:

(1) I learned of, located, and interviewed the witnesses in 1979; and incorporated their accounts into Best Evidence, which was submitted in manuscript form by April, 1980, and was in the book stores by January, 1981..

(2) The JFK Records Act—passed as a result of Oliver Stone’s 12/91 release of JFK—led to the original HSCA documents being released in 1993/94.

Of course, the public didn’t have to wait until 1993/94; they could (and did) read Best Evidence, published in January, 1981.

The substance of what O’Connor (and the others) had to say made its first public appearance in Best Evidence, which was number one on many best seller lists by April of 1981. Further, I arranged to film his account, in October, 1980, at his home in Gainesville, Florida,, and that was broadcast nationally on several shows in the Spring of 1981 (e.g. Tom Snyder) plus in many cities across the U.S. where I went on my book tour, always carrying with me a 3/4” video of O’Connor and the other key Bethesda witnesses.

Neither the way O’Connor’s account became public nor any of the 3 key points that O’Connor made that made his account historically significant is mentioned in the obituary. The obit about Paul O’Connor should be focused on what was important about him as a witness, and the information he had which pointed to fraud in the autopsy; and how those facts became known—not on who fraternized with whom, and in what year.

When then HSCA report was released in July, 1979, and I saw the statement about the body bag, I located O’Connor (and the others), interviewed him (and the others, all in the fall of 1979) and published their accounts. (This is described in Chapter 26 of B.E.)

O’Connor’s statements that the body arrived in a body bag, inside a shipping casket; and that the cranium was empty—all that is nowhere to be found in the obituary but is spelled out in the HSCA (Purdy/Flanagan) Outside Contact Report, and it would have remained locked up until 2029, were it not for the JFK Records Act, which made it available in 1993/94. It only became available in 1981—a full 13 years earlier---because of Best Evidence.

In short, I played the major role in locating and interviewing (at length, and on camera) Paul O'Connor--and seeing to it that he was exposed, repeatedly, to a national television audience. None of that is mentioned in
the obit. Instead, the obit limits my involvement to this single sentence: "Mr. O'Connor was interviewed by David Lifton for Best Evidence”—as if events that happened in 1979-1981 can be ignored. They cannot and should not.

Starting in the Spring of 1981, Paul O’Connor’s face was all over the tv, in national broadcasts (e.g. Tom Snyder show) and in major news shows in individual cities across the country, where I was sent on tour, always carrying 3/4” video tapes of his account. Another burst of publilcity occurred on the 20th anniversary (1983), another on the 25th (1988) and still more on the 30th (1993).

As Paul himself said to me back then, “Thanks for putting me on the map, buddy.”

Of course, I realize that the obit ought to be focused on Paul O’Connor, not me; but we are inextricably linked because my book and video were the means by which Paul O’Connor’s critical information became available to the world. The obit, as currently written, misses all that entirely. Instead of being written about the events of 1977-1981, when all this occurred, its as if its focused on the year 2000, or who O’Connor was fraternizing with in the late 1990s, or what he said to William Law 22 years after I first interviewed him and filmed him.

Why in the world is there this misplaced emphasis? The role of B.E. is not just diminished, it is ignored. Further, what O’Connor had to say that was important is also ignored.

The result: that O'Connor's account, and its 3 key features (the way the body arrived--shipping casket, body bag, etc.--and the empty cranium)--is omitted.

That’s like writing an obit of Thomas Edison and omitting the fact that he discovered the electric light bulb.

For your reference, I’m attaching a chronology of my involvement with O’Connor. Perhaps what you generate in the future can be a more accurate reflection of this record."
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