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« on: February 08, 2011, 09:10:15 pm »

For structure of the hearing, the Warren Commission should be placed as centerpiece and as acting Attorney General completely subject to laws of evidence including cross examination of all evidence - which put forth in the least, that Lee Harvey Oswald indeed shot President John F. Kennedy.

Since the Warren Commission was federally by Act Of Law, it then did superimpose authority over the Office of actual Attorney General of the United States and U.S. Supreme Court who were legally obliged. The Warren Commission may well be that device that indeed kept a full chain of evidence of the inquest as opposed to loosing cohesiveness in lesser Courts and Office due to trafficking - burden lifted.

One of the greatest conclusions of the Warren Commission is that indeed Lee Harvey Oswald did shoot the President but that they, the Warren Commission, can - and did not - not rule out that he was employed in any manner by a greater force or political power or person or persons or nation or nations - any private conspiracy unknown and unsearchable via the deceased murdered suspect amid legal proceeedings of prosecution of same. The Warren Commission has NEVER declared "CASE CLOSED". It was declared a Capital Offense without statue limitations until solved by due process of law.

Again the apparent ignorance as the defintion of Capital Offense applies here.
".....No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger;...."
Subsequent or existing investigation may preclude the Writ Of Habeas Corpus as suspended in event of National Security. Certainly at the fifty year mark - there is certainly economic sufficiency and munition to defeat any enemy perceived and should hereby be reinstated as to full Public Trial under the new hearing.

Note the greater Public Danger (greater than the assassination) was "nuclear war" with the, then, U.S.S.R. which since has dissolved and no longer exists. This Public Danger was in existence in October 1962 and possible War.

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The Warren Commission HAS NOT RULED OUT CONSPIRACY and was borne up additionally by the autopsy of President J .F. Kennedy which declared such masssive damages as to not rule out additional simultaneous bullets, missles occurred at the time of the fatal wounding.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 10:16:53 pm »

# The new commission should be in the model of Public Trial. The Warren Commission conclusion coupled with the Dallas Police Department as origin of evidence should be presented as opening statement.

# In dispensation for expediency sake, the entire Warren Commission should not be read - but the conclusions. The then full cross examination and court procedures can ensue with complete civility and rule of law.

# ALL EVIDENCE wthheld in any manner from/by the Public or/by Court or/by Commission heretofore will now be declassified and enterted into record legally and received under rules of Law and held. FIRST the entry into record of the Warren Commission findings and other should be examined for truthfulness BEFORE any new evidence is applied in simple review of the facts on their own merit of their own day.

# All findings should then dismiss or uphold all or any part of the Warren Commission findings including all report by Dallas Police Department or any other Agency or Department or persons (s) involved.

NOTE... WE ARE ALL WELL AWARE THAT MANY PERSONS HAVE EXPIRED (DIED) AND CAN ONLY THEREFORE RELY ON EXISTING EVIDENCE (WARREN COMMISSION FINDINGS AND OTHER) WHICH INDIVIDUALLY WILL BE THE "WITNESSES" OR "EVIDENCES" SUBMITTED. THIS WILL BE THE ONLY WAY FOR CROSS EXAMINATION POSSIBLE OBVIOUSLY.

# New Evidence.... sighting a 50 year jubilee era concluding, science expectedly has indeed increased investigation to a more true report than ever before. To maintain the New Commission dicipline, this shall be the second half of evidences and witnesses procedures with full access to all entered.

The new model here is for the Warren Commission findings itself to be "on trial" for accuracy first. What exhaustively, and with all due respect, may be found as incorrect or false in the original Warren Commission findings and report should now be dismissed from record according to rule of Law. All truth that remains should now be the revised record and findings of the Warren Commission and republished with correction via findings and court legal procedure.

This should be done easily and fairly fast observing the findings and reports of evidence and witnesses are what will be read into evidence for the new hearing. (Just the conclusions read into record to begin in the interest of burdensome time with this unique case, but full copies held by everyone and prepared questions in advance are readied and to then begin the full line by line cross examination - so that beyond all and any doubt - what remains are the true known facts of the event tried legally in this court of law. ) 

# This should conclude Part One of the entering of evidence.

# Part Two shall be all NEW evidence entered by Rule of Law. New evidence may consist of anything not in the original final Warren Commission report. New Evidence may correct any previous dismissals ruled false or inaccurate at this hearing - Part One. This should be done first. New evidence should then be duly applied to the new commission with all conclusions of evidence now entered and oppositions to old noted. With the next Part of the Commission, the new findings will be near readied.

#As addition, Part Three should include all "conspiracy theory" type writings and authors' testimonies. This will suffice to somehow intelligently surmise any other guilty parties as intimated possible in the original Warren Commission Report. This is that part of Motive defined. These should be entered as OPINION respectively and maturely and not any circus being discourse of court civility of who is right and wrong about who did what and when. Authors should intelligently present their theories with the knowledge they will be added to the final report.
In observance of all evidence being faithfully and lawfully submitted in advance of Part Three occurring - these "witnesses" testimonies should be given deferred time to prepare their final draft for official entry into the record for any modifications in review with the new hearing findings to date.
Additionally, all or any conspiracy theories should be entered into record other than the ones presented, and afterwards - with court opinion and law as to whether they are inordinately false or fantasy. These rulings should be and will be published publicly. It is the intent this is the final hearing and all to the contrary notwithstanding should be publicly and of record dismissed and disallowed publication even in fanatsy catagories as disrespectful and untrue.

THE FULL PICTURE OF COMMISSION STRUCTURE SHOULD NOW BECOMING EVIDENT. THE NEW EQUIVALENT COMMISSION SHOULD BE COMPRISED OF RESPECTIVE MEMBERS AS TO THE FIRST MODEL AND SITTING AND SUPERCEDE AS SITTING ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES.

A FULL PANEL OF CITIZENS PROFESSIONAL AND OTHERWISE INVOLVED AS RESEARCHERS AND INVESTIGATORS THROUGH THE YEARS OR THEIR RESPECTIVE FINDINGS OR PUBLICATIONS IF DECEASED SHOULD SIT AS "WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES...." WITH FULL APPOINTED COURT AUTHORITY IN THE PROCEEDINGS. THIS WILL BE THE CROSS EXAMINATION OF THE MODEL GIVING THE PUBLIC FULL ACCESS TO THE TRIAL UNDER RULE OF LAW. MUCH OF NEW EVIDENCE NO DOUBT HAS BEEN GENERATED HERE AND APPLIED WHERE APPLICABLE.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 06:15:42 pm »

So there is no mistake, it is not implied here about dare touching the Warren Commission Report or destroying any part of it. the Warren Commission Report should be treated as it is - the full archive possible at the time and is like the US Constitution itself so preserved and even on display. It is America's permanent record of the inquest and of course all evidence physically preserved.

Again in mentioning the expected improvements in science etc., we obviously can appreciate such the finite ability available today and in 1963 to examine such events as compared to the President Abraham Lincoln just 100 years prior.

What is actually suggested is any reprint with corrections made. It is such a helter skelter array that needs cohesive display as final report to be intelligible actually. It is a simple case. There was a multiple shooting with at least two injured, of course one fatally, in broad daylight with ample witnessess. It should have been that simple to have police / secret service reports up front and the medical reports and then all witnesses and statements.

The report has the feel of mass hysteria as each and every statement ends up in some world trek to expose or discredit some conspiracy theory - to dramatize it. This is extrememly annoying and unprofessional to present such disorginization as final draft. I propose a republication in orderly fashion.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 04:05:47 am »

Executive Order 11130  http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11130

Executive Order 11130 of November 29, 1963

Appointing a Commission to Report Upon the
of President John F. Kennedy


Pursuant to the authority vested in me as President of the United States, I hereby appoint a Commission to ascertain, evaluate, and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination. The Commission shall consist of—

    The Chief Justice of the United States, Chairman;

    Senator Richard B. Russell;

    Senator John Sherman Cooper;

    Congressman Hale Boggs;

    Congressman Gerald R. Ford;

    The Honorable Alien W. Dulles;

    The Honorable John J. McCloy.


The purposes of the Commission are to examine the evidence developed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and any additional evidence that may hereafter come to light or be uncovered by Federal or State authorities; to make such further investigation as the Commission finds desirable; to evaluate all the facts and circumstances surrounding such assassination, including the subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination, and to report to me its findings and conclusions.


The Commission is empowered to prescribe its own procedures and to employ such assistants as it deems necessary.


Necessary expenses of the Commission may be paid from the “Emergency Fund for the President.”


All Executive departments and agencies are directed to furnish the Commission with such facilities, services, and cooperation as it may request from time to time.


Signature of Lyndon B. Johnson
Lyndon B. Johnson
The White House,
November 29, 1963.
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